2019 UDFA’s

goheels22002 said:

I don't see any of this group making the 53, but someone almost always does.

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goheels22002 said:

I don't see any of this group making the 53, but someone almost always does.

The LB Terez Hall looks like big safety to me. If they can coach him up to stay in position, having a thumper like him around as a safety when they go to the 5-2-4 amoeba defense that messed with Goff's head in the Super Bowl could be valuable. I have this fantasy that somebody is going to take on the Rodney Harrison persona and be the enforcer in the secondary. This guy has that sort of physical presence and tackling ability. But in coverage? God help us.

The addition of Andrew Beck on the same day they let Jacob Hollister go was interesting. Beck is a 5th year senior captain, made some plays and was solid as a downfield blocker as an H-back type TE. If they keep three, Beck could make the team.

Jakobi Meyers was the 25th highest rated WR at Walter football so he has some skills. It's just hard to see him cracking the WR group barring an injury.

The two Miami linemen were an interesting pickup as well. Belichick won't be able to swing a dead cat without hitting a tackle trying to make the team. Wynn is undersized to be a full-time left tackle, so he'll probably move around on the line depending on down and distance. It looked to me like Dante had those guys on his list and Bill said, "Whatever you need, Mr. Scarnecchia, sir." Belichick understands that this entire dynasty begins and ends with what Dante does to build an offensive line that just gets better every week as the season progresses to keep TFB upright.

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DaBruinz said:

With the fact that Karras, Ferentz, Scwenke and Thuney are UFA after this season, I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyler Gauthier stick with the team the same way Karras did initially.

I think you are underestimating Wynn. Here is a guy who excelled at LT at the college level despite not being 6'5. But we'll have to wait and see.

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goheels22002 said:

The OL is the most important position group on the field, and the loss of 6'8" 275lb Trent Brown was huge, literally and figuratively.

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goheels22002 said:

Gauthier is interesting because he's a center who has played some guard. Depth at center is an issue.

I'm not sold on Wynn as a tackle at this point in the NFL. Solder, Vollmer, Brown, Cannon are all taller. You have to go back to Matt Light (not a bad comparison) to find a 6'4" starting tackle for the Patriots. I hope he works out and can handle the grind. Everybody in the division drafted DLs to get to the geezer at QB for the Patriots. The OL is the most important position group on the field, and the loss of 6'8" 275lb Trent Brown was huge, literally and figuratively.

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goheels22002 said:

Gauthier is interesting because he's a center who has played some guard. Depth at center is an issue.

I'm not sold on Wynn as a tackle at this point in the NFL. Solder, Vollmer, Brown, Cannon are all taller. You have to go back to Matt Light (not a bad comparison) to find a 6'4" starting tackle for the Patriots. I hope he works out and can handle the grind. Everybody in the division drafted DLs to get to the geezer at QB for the Patriots. The OL is the most important position group on the field, and the loss of 6'8" 275lb Trent Brown was huge, literally and figuratively.

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Ras-IR Dowling said:

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Let’s see here..weight 275?
Yeah, in your bra.

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DaBruinz said:

Actually, Matt Light was 6'4 6/8" tall. So nearly 6'5. Bruce Armstrong was actually shorter than Light at just 6'4.

Wynn is 6'2 6/8". Where he has a bonus is his arm length in that it's 33 3/8" and a wing span of
78 7/8" He also is built at 313 lbs.. Bill may decide to move Wynn inside next year, but I think he'll be given every chance at LT before that.

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ausbacker said:

And yet, despite his awesome size, the argument can be made Brown was the weakest link on the OL.

Wynn's college tape is impressive. Scarnecchia has done more with less. Outside of health concerns, I have faith in Wynn and the OL.

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goheels22002 said:

OMG! You have a problem with the OL in 2018?

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goheels22002 said:

Gauthier is interesting because he's a center who has played some guard. Depth at center is an issue.

I'm not sold on Wynn as a tackle at this point in the NFL. Solder, Vollmer, Brown, Cannon are all taller. You have to go back to Matt Light (not a bad comparison) to find a 6'4" starting tackle for the Patriots. I hope he works out and can handle the grind. Everybody in the division drafted DLs to get to the geezer at QB for the Patriots. The OL is the most important position group on the field, and the loss of 6'8" 375lb Trent Brown was huge, literally and figuratively.

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ausbacker said:

And yet, despite his awesome size, the argument can be made Brown was the weakest link on the OL.

Wynn's college tape is impressive. Scarnecchia has done more with less. Outside of health concerns, I have faith in Wynn and the OL.

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goheels22002 said:

OMG! You have a problem with the OL in 2018? Tom Brady was sacked 21 times in 16 games. Brady was sacked more in 15 - I repeat 15 - more years in his career. Are you even paying attention? Please look at what that line did in 2018.

Brady was sacked once - 1 time - in the playoffs. That was 0.8% of his passing attempts! Less than 1%!

Brown was a stud! He made Solder, who was a disaster in NY, look like the best decision BB and DS ever made.

Tom Brady Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

I don't give a crap about Wynn's college tape.

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ausbacker said:

Either your response was intended for someone else or your reading comprehension is problematic. Let me break it down for you:

1. You wrote you're not sold on Wynn at OT.
2. You wrote OL is the most important position group on the field.
3. You wrote Trent Brown was huge, literally and figuratively.
4. I wrote despite his size, the argument can be made Brown was the weakest link on the OL.
5. I wrote Wynn's college tape is impressive.
6. I wrote I have faith in Wynn and the OL.

Either you're being foolish or you didn't bother reading my post, one which says I have faith in Wynn to be coached up by Scarnecchia and the OL to perform.

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goheels22002 said:

Trent Brown did not allow a single sack in the playoffs. The only sack was in the Rams game by a guy being blocked by Thuney, and that sack was a coverage sack.
https://www.therams.com/video/brady-gets-sacked-by-franklin-myers-for-first-time-in-2018-postseason

By what metric was Trent Brown the "weakest link" on that line?

My strong reaction to all of this has to do with the fact that the Patriots OL was #1 in Adjusted Sack Rate at only 3.8% on Football Outsiders,
2018 OFFENSIVE LINES | Football Outsiders Brady, of course, has lots to with that stat, but the offensive line was stellar.

I'm thrilled you are confident in Isaiah Wynn who has never played a down in an NFL regular season game. I hope you are right.

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Wozzy said:

All told it's a pretty crappy UDFA class, the one diamond in the rough is guard Calvin Anderson from Texas, he gets my vote.

He was a transfer from Rice, brilliant student, crazy good athlete, mobility would have been the best at the combine for all O-linemen, great strength and vertical.

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betterthanthealternative said:

How do you evaluate one UDFA class to another?

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SBLIII said:

UDFAs salaries

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captain stone said:

$115K for Beck?!?

We'd be better-off if Bill had simply drafted Caleb Wilson or Dax Raymond
instead of Yet...Another...CB/FS.

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SBLIII said:

UDFAs salaries

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