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TE: Wesco, Moreau, Raymond, Parham, Sweeney, Dillon

WR: Butler, Morgan, Renfrow, Sills, Easley

LB/S/ST: Holcomb, Summers

G/C: Sua Opeta, Ryan Anderson, Ross Piersbacher, Nick Allegretti

DE: Nelson, Phillips, Cominsky

DT: Wren

FoxboroFlyer said:

I'm gonna call the surprise QB pick as Mcsorley.

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Wow. That would certainly be surprising.

Plenty of good players left.

S: Gardner, Hooker, Thompson

DE/Edge: Nelson, Omenihu, Keke, Bryant, Joe Jackson, Christian Miller, Shareef Miller, Jelks, DeAndre Walker, Crosby

DT: Wren, Watts, Willis, Mack, Huggins

LB: Mack Wilson, Vosean Joseph, Cameron Smith

QB: Plenty of them left

TE: Sweeney, Nauta, Moreau, Mack, Kaden Smith, Dax Raymond

WR: Ridley, Butler, Keesean Johnson, Renfrow, Anthony Johnson, Preston Williams, Fulgham, Stanley Morgan, Emmanuel Hall

Having just had a go at a very early roster to see where gaps might be, I think there are spots available at the back end of the roster at the following spots.

1. QB - could use someone to compete with Hoyer and Etling.
2. WR - could find a slot option to compete with Berrios, Harris and Ellington for that 5th roster spot
3. TE - plenty of bodies here actually and a veteran seems more likely. However could certainly improve if the right guy is available.
4.OL - could see us take a couple of guys to compete for back up slots here.
5. DT - another big body type is needed for the 3 man rotation. Could be a veteran here too.
6.LB - still seems to be room for a depth LB with core special teams ability

I wonder if we chuck a 6th rounder at Minnesota for Rudolph. And then take Stidham, a couple of linemen, Terez Hall and a WR like Nick Easley

FoxboroFlyer said:

I'm gonna call the surprise QB pick as Mcsorley.

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As a QB or Edelman Swiss army type, e.g. converting to WR???

This pic is not mine is from Josh Norris. I like the names so i shared with you guys.

I like 23 names from that list and there are other such as David Sills. CB is not a ''need'' for us anymore. I would trade down from 118 for an extra pick. With that pick i would love to:

Quarterbacks 2/2

12 Tom Brady (2019)
2 Brian Hoyer (2019)

Running backs 4/4

26 Sony Michel (2022)
33 Damien Harris (2022)
28 James White (2020)
34 Rex Burkhead (2020)

Fullback 1/1

46 James Develin (2020)

Wide receivers 4/5

11 Julian Edelman (2019)
13 Phillip Dorsett (2019)
15 N'Keal Harry (2023)
84 Hakeem Butler (2022)
14 Demaryius Thomas (2019)

Tight ends 3/3

88 Austin Seferian-Jenkins (2019)
83 Matt LaCosse (2020)
85 Ryan Izzo (2021)

Offensive linemen 7/8

60 David Andrews C (2020)
61 Marcus Cannon RT (2021)
62 Joe Thuney LG (2019)
66 Ben Powers iOL (2022)
75 Ted Karras IOL (2019)
69 Shaq Mason RG (2023)
68 Yodny Cajuste T (2022)
76 Isaiah Wynn LT/LG (2022)

Defensive linemen 7/8

70 Adam Butler DT (2019)
58 Michael Bennett DL (2020)
93 Lawrence Guy DT (2020)
90 Mike Pennel DT (2020)
95 Chase Winovich DE (2022)
96 Daylon Mack DT (2022)
91 Deatrich Wise Jr. DE (2020)
55 John Simon DE (2020)

Linebackers 4/4

51 Ja'Whaun Bentley (2021)
54 Dont'a Hightower (2020)
52 Elandon Roberts (2019)
53 Kyle Van Noy (2019)

Defensive backs 10/10

23 Patrick Chung SS (2020)
29 Duke Dawson CB/S (2021)
24 Stephon Gilmore CB (2021)
21 Duron Harmon FS (2020)
27 J. C. Jackson CB (2020)
32 Devin McCourty FS (2019)
31 Jonathan Jones CB (2019)
30 Jason McCourty CB (2020)
35 Joejuan Williams CB (2022)
22 Obi Melifonwu FS/SS (2019)

Special teams 9/9

18 Matthew Slater (2019)
38 Brandon Bolden (2020)
35 Terrence Brooks FS (2020)
43 Nate Ebner FS (2019)
36 Brandon King LB (2019)** If they want to add a 3rd QB I think he is the weakest link


49 Joe Cardona LS (2022)
3 Stephen Gostkowski (2020)
6 Ryan Allen P (2019)

Patsfanin Philly said:

As a QB or Edelman Swiss army type, e.g. converting to WR???

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I'm not enamored with any of the QB's from this draft, from top to bottom of the board. But if I was to choose one now I'd probably take a flier on Gardner Minshew, Nick Fitzgerald or Easton Stick.

Flash said:

S: CGJ, Hooker and Deionte Thompson

LB: Mack Wilson

CB: Julian Love

QB: Jarrett Stidham, Tyree Jackson

DE: Anthony Nelson

I don't know nearly enough about late round prospects but otherwise most have similar values. We should grab Nelson ASAP but otherwise I don't think there is a priority pick for us. Would love to have Julian Love but we have too many CBs.

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>>QB: Jarrett Stidham,

I read somewhere that we like him. I have not looked him up yet. Do the Pats like him?

Patsfanin Philly said:

As a QB or Edelman Swiss army type, e.g. converting to WR???

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Nick Fitzgerald for that.

Pats have been pretty decent the last few years getting guys in the 4th


'17- Wise
'16- Mitchell
'15- Mason & Flowers
'14- White & Fleming

DaBruinz said:

TE: Wesco, Moreau, Raymond, Parham, Sweeney, Dillon

WR: Butler, Morgan, Renfrow, Sills, Easley

LB/S/ST: Holcomb, Summers

G/C: Sua Opeta, Ryan Anderson, Ross Piersbacher, Nick Allegretti

DE: Nelson, Phillips, Cominsky

DT: Wren

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Good call on Wesco. Forgot about him.

zimmy said:

I wonder if we chuck a 6th rounder at Minnesota for Rudolph.

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Or give them of the 4th rounders #118 in exchange for Rudolph and one of their 5th rounders #157.
His contract is reasonable at $7 million for one year and would be in keeping w Pats philosophy, keeping the draft picks but swapping it to gain assets. (e.g. Van Noy, T. Brown etc..)
Vikings drafted Irv Smith and I can't see using a 2 TE set....

Hunter Renfrow. Make it happen BB.

Jordan Brailford.
Sutton Smith
Brett Rypien
Terry Godwin
Justin Hollins
Remaining from my list of late rounders

Don't understand Hakeem Butler, really liked him the few times I saw him.

Patsfanin Philly said:

As a QB or Edelman Swiss army type, e.g. converting to WR???

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Nope, as a QB.

As much as I like Moreau in the draft, I really don't think there is a TE left who improves significantly on Izzo, Hollister, LeCosse and Seferian Jenkins. We don't need another depth player, we need a starting level player. Schefter all but said Ben Watson was coming out of retirement to re-sign with us too. I do think Rudolph makes sense.

hornetfb85 said:

How I think tomorrow will go draft position wise.

*Trade 118 for a 2020 third
*Draft at 133
*Trade 134 and a 7th for a 5th and a 6th.

Take it to the Bank!!!

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Trading a 4 this year for a 3 next year is a great move. It’s trading a 3 for a 4. You don’t lose a year, you delay a year. You get a full contract/career either way.

That said everyone knows this so it’s hard to get someone to make that trade with you.

I agree we will move around and not have a 100 pick gap

Any opinions on TE- Isaac Nauta from Georgia?

I love our special teamers, but you got to think with this many remaining draft picks with players with legit positional talent, that we should look to some picks that can provide positional depth and be potential starters in a couple years (eg Amani Hooker to replace Chung) and hope these guys can do the job on special teams in the interim.

FoxboroFlyer said:

Any opinions on TE- Isaac Nauta from Georgia?

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Yes please. Watch his tape. He's a very willing blocker.