2019 Mock Drafts

Ivan · Apr 13, 2019

I’m really interested in who is riding andvwho is falling. There seems to be a lot of volatility in this draft, e.g..Dexter Lawrence in the mid 2nd in a CBS mock today, and it could give a better sense of who may actually be at #32, and the approach they should take.

manxman2601 · Apr 13, 2019

Ivan said:
I’m really interested in who is riding andvwho is falling. There seems to be a lot of volatility in this draft, e.g..Dexter Lawrence in the mid 2nd in a CBS mock today, and it could give a better sense of who may actually be at #32, and the approach they should take.

Dexter Lawrence is too good to fall that far in my opinion.

Just my opinion based upon some mock draft simulations but almost all of the WRs, DTs and OL that I think are likely Pats picks in that first round range don’t last until 56. It seems like too far back to grab a faller. Trading up from 56 might be the way to go.

Ivan · Apr 13, 2019

manxman2601 said:
Dexter Lawrence is too good to fall that far in my opinion.

Just my opinion based upon some mock draft simulations but almost all of the WRs, DTs and OL that I think are likely Pats picks in that first round range don’t last until 56. It seems like too far back to grab a faller. Trading up from 56 might be the way to go.

I definitely agree but I don’t follow the draft anywhere near as closely as I once did, and this imo is one of the best draft forums you will find, as there are a number of you who know their stuff as well as anyone out there, yourself included. Over the next couple of weeks I’m going to try to get a much clearer idea of who will definitely be gone, who might fall within reach, and who should likely be available at #32.

All the tedious work you guys do to inform this site is greatly appreciated. I think I’m going to make a post in the general forum asking that it be allowed to be used as a pre draft forum going into the lead up to the draft. Better it be used as the primary forum for draft discussion up to the draft than its current primary use as the Argue with Andy forum.

manxman2601 · Apr 13, 2019

Ivan said:
I definitely agree but I don’t follow the draft anywhere near as closely as I once did, and this imo is one of the best draft forums you will find, as there are a number of you who know their stuff as well as anyone out there, yourself included. Over the next couple of weeks I’m going to try to get a much clearer idea of who will definitely be gone, who might fall within reach, and who should likely be available at #32.

All the tedious work you guys do to inform this site is greatly appreciated. I think I’m going to make a post in the general forum asking that it be allowed to be used as a pre draft forum going into the lead up to the draft. Better it be used as the primary forum for draft discussion up to the draft than its current primary use as the Argue with Andy forum.

Thanks and I agree. There are some great people here and occasional visitors are always welcome and well informed. And the tone is great here - even when we disagree it's done respectfully.

patsfaninpa · Apr 13, 2019

manxman2601 said:
Dexter Lawrence is too good to fall that far in my opinion.

Just my opinion based upon some mock draft simulations but almost all of the WRs, DTs and OL that I think are likely Pats picks in that first round range don’t last until 56. It seems like too far back to grab a faller. Trading up from 56 might be the way to go.

I think BB has a higher ranking of the fatties than most teams. Many defenses just attack the qb. Makes them vulnerable to the run game and short passes. They want DL who can get upfield. We want them to play their position, then squeeze the pocket.

manxman2601 · Apr 13, 2019

patsfaninpa said:
I think BB has a higher ranking of the fatties than most teams. Many defenses just attack the qb. Makes them vulnerable to the run game and short passes. They want DL who can get upfield. We want them to play their position, then squeeze the pocket.

I agree, but Big Dex is more than a fattie.

manxman2601 · Apr 13, 2019

@reamer

Have you watched Joejuan Williams against Ole Miss? Really fun competitive stuff. AJ Brown and Lodge get a handful of catches against him but they're all excellent catches and had to be. And then Williams not only gets an end zone interception but also the game saving pass breakup. As enjoyable a tape as I've seen because it's Mano a Mano stuff.

WaterfallJumper · Apr 13, 2019

manxman2601 said:
@reamer

Have you watched Joejuan Williams against Ole Miss? Really fun competitive stuff. AJ Brown and Lodge get a handful of catches against him but they're all excellent catches and had to be. And then Lodge not only gets an end zone interception but also the game saving pass breakup. As enjoyable a tape as I've seen because it's Mano a Mano stuff.

Yup, watched all his games. He's legit!

Ochmed Jones · Apr 13, 2019

manxman2601 said:
I agree, but Big Dex is more than a fattie.

A radio mock had us trading up to 21 for Lawrence.

WaterfallJumper · Apr 13, 2019

Ochmed Jones said:
A radio mock had us trading up to 21 for Lawrence.

If that's what it took I'd be on board. He and Pennel would be impossible to run on inside.

manxman2601 · Apr 13, 2019

Ochmed Jones said:
A radio mock had us trading up to 21 for Lawrence.

Not sure how I feel about that. Love the player, not sure about the trade up. I’d make my piece with it.

WaterfallJumper · Apr 13, 2019

Just for fun, I tried a "blind" mock via walkthemock.com. I simply took the top ranked available player every single time, regardless of position. Fastest mock I've ever done since there wasn't any thinking involved, hah. Surprisingly, I would not hate this result -- it's better than half the attempts I've seen in the media.

1:32 - G Chris Lindstrom, Boston College
2:24 - DL Jerry Tillery, Notre Dame
2:32 - EDGE Chase Winovich, Michigan
3:9 - WR Preston Williams, Colorado St.
3:33 - RB Justice Hill, Oklahoma St.
3:37 - WR Andy Isabella, UMass
4:32 - QB Tyree Jackson, Buffalo
6:32 - DL Daniel Wise, Kansas
7:25 - RB Karan Higdon, Michigan
7:29 - LB Gary Johnson, Texas
7:32 - EDGE Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan
7:38 - LB Kendall Joseph, Clemson

SirApropos · Apr 13, 2019

Fanspeak Difficult 7 rounder. Murphy was too good to pass up and I figured we could put Dawson at S.

32: R1P32 CB BYRON MURPHY, WASHINGTON
56: R2P24 TE IRV SMITH, ALABAMA
64: R2P32 C ERIK MCCOY, TEXAS A&M
73: R3P9 DL ZACH ALLEN, BOSTON COLLEGE
97: R3P33 WR ANDY ISABELLA, MASSACHUSETTS
101: R3P37 WR MILES BOYKIN, NOTRE DAME
134: R4P32 TE KAHALE WARRING,SAN DIEGO ST.
205: R6P32 QB CLAYTON THORSON, NORTHWESTERN
239: R7P25 DL CHRIS SLAYTON, SYRACUSE
243: R7P29 EDGE JAMAL DAVIS, AKRON
246: R7P32 OT TREY PIPKINS, SIOUX FALLS
252: R7P38 DL DANNY WISE, KANSAS

Bourne Again Christian · Apr 14, 2019

SirApropos said:
Fanspeak Difficult 7 rounder. Murphy was too good to pass up and I figured we could put Dawson at S.

32: R1P32 CB BYRON MURPHY, WASHINGTON
56: R2P24 TE IRV SMITH, ALABAMA
64: R2P32 C ERIK MCCOY, TEXAS A&M
73: R3P9 DL ZACH ALLEN, BOSTON COLLEGE
97: R3P33 WR ANDY ISABELLA, MASSACHUSETTS
101: R3P37 WR MILES BOYKIN, NOTRE DAME
134: R4P32 TE KAHALE WARRING,SAN DIEGO ST.
205: R6P32 QB CLAYTON THORSON, NORTHWESTERN
239: R7P25 DL CHRIS SLAYTON, SYRACUSE
243: R7P29 EDGE JAMAL DAVIS, AKRON
246: R7P32 OT TREY PIPKINS, SIOUX FALLS
252: R7P38 DL DANNY WISE, KANSAS

This is a very solid draft

ctpatsfan77 · Apr 14, 2019

SirApropos said:
Fanspeak Difficult 7 rounder. Murphy was too good to pass up and I figured we could put Dawson at S.

Even without Murphy, they may have to do that: Gilmore, Jackson, J-Mac, Jones, Crossen.

ctpatsfan77 · Apr 14, 2019

reamer said:
Just for fun, I tried a "blind" mock via walkthemock.com. I simply took the top ranked available player every single time, regardless of position. Fastest mock I've ever done since there wasn't any thinking involved, hah. Surprisingly, I would not hate this result -- it's better than half the attempts I've seen in the media.

1:32 - G Chris Lindstrom, Boston College
2:24 - DL Jerry Tillery, Notre Dame
2:32 - EDGE Chase Winovich, Michigan
3:9 - WR Preston Williams, Colorado St.
3:33 - RB Justice Hill, Oklahoma St.
3:37 - WR Andy Isabella, UMass
4:32 - QB Tyree Jackson, Buffalo
6:32 - DL Daniel Wise, Kansas
7:25 - RB Karan Higdon, Michigan
7:29 - LB Gary Johnson, Texas
7:32 - EDGE Maxx Crosby, Eastern Michigan
7:38 - LB Kendall Joseph, Clemson

The two boldfaced picks are the only "Ummm . . ." picks here. Everyone else at least makes some sense. [My problem with Jackson is the player, with Higdon the drafting-two-RBs part.]

SBLIII · Apr 14, 2019

ctpatsfan77 said:
Even without Murphy, they may have to do that: Gilmore, Jackson, J-Mac, Jones, Crossen.

I learned you can never have too many quality corners and should regularly taking shots at landing an elite one.

WaterfallJumper · Apr 14, 2019

ctpatsfan77 said:
The two boldfaced picks are the only "Ummm . . ." picks here. Everyone else at least makes some sense. [My problem with Jackson is the player, with Higdon the drafting-two-RBs part.]

I had similar feelings about it -- an entertaining exercise that worked out fairly well and illustrates the depth of this draft, but probably not an optimized haul.

I tried again this morning with the fanspeak simulator and the most recent composite board. I "cheated" by limiting myself to 2 at each position (otherwise we would have had 5 more RBs after Montgomery and Sanders, no joke). Again, it's not a perfect result, but I'd be pretty happy with the first three picks as well as a few of the others (Wesco with the final pick is a huge steal).

I'll probably refrain from trying again, but it does show the deficiency of a BPA approach, as well as convince me that trading down is probably smart and trading into next year should be priority.

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
1: R1P32
DL CHRISTIAN WILKINS
CLEMSON

2: R2P24
S CHAUNCEY GARDNER-JOHNSON
FLORIDA

3: R2P32
WR J.J. ARCEGA-WHITESIDE
STANFORD

4: R3P9
RB DAVID MONTGOMERY
IOWA ST.

5: R3P33
RB MILES SANDERS
PENN ST.

6: R3P37
WR EMANUEL HALL
MISSOURI

7: R4P32
LB TERRILL HANKS
NEW MEXICO ST.

8: R6P32
LB CHASE HANSEN
UTAH

9: R7P25
DL RICKY WALKER
VIRGINIA TECH

10: R7P29
OT MARTEZ IVEY
FLORIDA

11: R7P32
S LUKAS DENIS
BOSTON COLLEGE

12: R7P38
TE TREVON WESCO
WEST VIRGINIA

oceansizer · Apr 14, 2019

32

Jeffery Simmons

, IDL
56

Kaleb McGary

, OT
64

Deebo Samuel

, WR
73

Dawson Knox

, TE
97

Bobby Okereke

, LB
101

Riley Ridley

, WR
134

Sutton Smith

, EDGE
205

Brett Rypien

, QB
239

Malik Gant

, S
243

Hunter Renfrow

, WR
246

Derwin Gray

, OT
252

Bryce Love

, RB

mrscruff · Apr 14, 2019

WalktheMock

Pick Player Pos College
1:32 Chris Lindstrom G Boston College
2:24 Jerry Tillery DL Notre Dame
2:32 Hakeem Butler WR Iowa St.
3:9 Zach Allen EDGE Boston College
3:33 Dawson Knox TE Ole Miss
3:37 Terry McLaurin WR Ohio St.
4:32 Kahale Warring TE San Diego St.
6:32 Ryan Finley QB North Carolina St.
7:25 Ryquell Armstead RB Temple
7:29 Jamal Peters CB Mississippi St.
7:32 Demarcus Christmas DL Florida St.
7:38 Tytus Howard OT Alabama St.

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