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Happy he is back, the bashing is just ignorant.
 
Time to answer the age old question, is he a Pats hall of famer?




Guess this is the new board meme.
 
I know all players screw up including kickers. But you bring up an interesting point. Yes Brady wanted them to kick it. It was at the 24 yard line (so a 42 yard kick).

The fact BB hesitated there is pretty shocking. He had a chance to go up 2 score with ONLY a 42 yard kick and thought of trying to get that half yard vs a D that had been pretty solid all day.

Why did he hesitate to try to make it a 2 score game? There is only one reason in my mind. He was thinking, 'what if Gost misses?'

The coach didn't fully instantly trust his kicker to make a routine 42 yarder in a dome and thought of rolling the dice. I think that is a WAY under played story.

With this post, the "story" just become over-played.
 
Ghost is not perfect. He makes me wiggle every kick. Saying that he is a position that needs to have no volatility. He checks that box
 
Glad to have him back, he makes me nervous sometimes in the big spots but not many kickers in the league are better than him.
 
Glad to have him back, he makes me nervous sometimes in the big spots but not many kickers in the league are better than him.
This is exactly how I feel. Only kicker I'd take over Ghost right now is Justin Tucker.
 
C'mon...I want the contract deets!

Welcome back, Ghost! Now don't miss any damn PATs....my blood pressure can't handle it.
 
Nice to have snapper, kicker, and punter/ holder back keep the operation clean.
 
Nice to have snapper, kicker, and punter/ holder back keep the operation clean.
Very key to have players specializing in handling of balls and kicking them.
 
It would not have been good to lose two OWSKI’s in one year.
 
It would not have been good to lose two OWSKI’s in one year.
Rumor has it that the main reason he signed is that he no longer will be confused with Gronkowski.
 
I’m not going to go look up who said that Gostkowski would get paid something comparable to Dan Bailey’s $1 million, but consider yourself shamed.
 
I’m not going to go look up who said that Gostkowski would get paid something comparable to Dan Bailey’s $1 million, but consider yourself shamed.
I mean Bailey at 1 mill is a much better deal
 
I have said recently and it has proven to be an unpopular opinion, but I stand by it.

I am fine with letting Gost walk. The simple matter of the fact is I just don't trust him. He has missed at least 1 kick in the super bowl 3 times in a row. Not mention the Denver playoff game. That is 4 runs in a row that when the big moment has come around he has missed; and they were all makable kicks.

It's sad cause until 2015 he was absolute nails in the playoffs mostly.

Bronco - missed XP - forces the Pats to go for a 2PT conv and fail as opposed to going to OT.

Falcons - missed XP - forces the Pats to go for not 1 but 2 2PT conv. They get both but it made it a lot harder.

Eagles - Missed XP and FG (and passed up on a 55 yard kick cause they didn't trust their kicker). They could have been up 40-38 and just have sat on the ball late or have been down 37-38 and the Eagles would not have been able to pin their ears back and rush. The run game would still have been alive as a FG was all we needed.

Rams - missed a 47 yard kick early in the game. Also they passed up on a 51 yard chance.

I don't think you can just shrug these off. This is a consistent trend that shows the bigger the game the more shaky he gets.

In the last 4 years they have been in 11 playoff games. Of these 11 games 6 were competitive and 5 were not.

In the 5 non-competitive games he missed 1 XP and 1 FG (from 53 yards).
In the 6 competitive games he missed 3 XPs and 2 FGs (from 19 and 47 yards) Not to mentioned they passed up on a few makable kicks in lieu of going for it.

He was only perfect in 2 competitive games (Jags and KC AFCCG). In these games he was asked to make 7 XPs and 2 FGs (49 yards vs KC and 19 vs Jags). I guess you need to give him props for that 49 yarder; then again it was 14-0 at the time so not much pressure within the context.

I am not trying to dump on Gost but can we not pretend that there isn't an issue here that has persisted for YEARS in big games.

If you trust him to make a big kick in a close playoff game then clearly you haven't been paying attention. If you want the Pats to win another super bowl then it should seriously be discussed if using 4M on Gost is the best way to do. If you think he is going to miss at least 1 XP or 1 FG in a close playoff game or super bowl where those points come at a premium in tight games I just don't see why this can't be a debate.
Your super bowl statistics are completely wrong.

Stephen Gostkowski Playoffs Game Log | Pro-Football-Reference.com
 
My only question would be, can you be sure his replacement would be more reliable? That’s what would concern me with bringing in someone new. Ghost has had some fluffs in big spots, albeit not always costly, but overall, he’s still largely a reliable kicker with some good pop in his foot. Not necessarily easy to replace.

Of course not because Gostkowski is one of the best in decades, if not ever.

Stephen Gostkowski Playoffs Game Log | Pro-Football-Reference.com
 
I have said recently and it has proven to be an unpopular opinion, but I stand by it.

I am fine with letting Gost walk. The simple matter of the fact is I just don't trust him. He has missed at least 1 kick in the super bowl 3 times in a row. Not mention the Denver playoff game. That is 4 runs in a row that when the big moment has come around he has missed; and they were all makable kicks.

It's sad cause until 2015 he was absolute nails in the playoffs mostly.

Bronco - missed XP - forces the Pats to go for a 2PT conv and fail as opposed to going to OT.

Falcons - missed XP - forces the Pats to go for not 1 but 2 2PT conv. They get both but it made it a lot harder.

Eagles - Missed XP and FG (and passed up on a 55 yard kick cause they didn't trust their kicker). They could have been up 40-38 and just have sat on the ball late or have been down 37-38 and the Eagles would not have been able to pin their ears back and rush. The run game would still have been alive as a FG was all we needed.

Rams - missed a 47 yard kick early in the game. Also they passed up on a 51 yard chance.

I don't think you can just shrug these off. This is a consistent trend that shows the bigger the game the more shaky he gets.

In the last 4 years they have been in 11 playoff games. Of these 11 games 6 were competitive and 5 were not.

In the 5 non-competitive games he missed 1 XP and 1 FG (from 53 yards).
In the 6 competitive games he missed 3 XPs and 2 FGs (from 19 and 47 yards) Not to mentioned they passed up on a few makable kicks in lieu of going for it.

He was only perfect in 2 competitive games (Jags and KC AFCCG). In these games he was asked to make 7 XPs and 2 FGs (49 yards vs KC and 19 vs Jags). I guess you need to give him props for that 49 yarder; then again it was 14-0 at the time so not much pressure within the context.

I am not trying to dump on Gost but can we not pretend that there isn't an issue here that has persisted for YEARS in big games.

If you trust him to make a big kick in a close playoff game then clearly you haven't been paying attention. If you want the Pats to win another super bowl then it should seriously be discussed if using 4M on Gost is the best way to do. If you think he is going to miss at least 1 XP or 1 FG in a close playoff game or super bowl where those points come at a premium in tight games I just don't see why this can't be a debate.

He has missed one field goal total in our last three Super Bowl wins. That's why he has an 88.6% percentage in career playoffs.
 
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