Rodgers sucks

He's no Darnold.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

This is something that gets brought up a lot. Rodgers isn’t capable of benefiting from advanced coaching concepts like Brady does. Brady reads defenses and progressions pre-snap and with a second of snapping the ball. To say Rodgers could just tack that on to his game with coaching like it’s a learned skill rather than innate ability, is same absurd thinking that Brady can just develop th same arm strength and mobility as Rodgers if he tried. I’ve said th exact same thing about Mahomes because it’s true. Brady appears to be incredibly well coached because he understands defenses and concepts like no one else.

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Great post. Right on the money.

IcyPatriot said:

For someone so talented ... there's something missing.

But there are have been many extremely talented players in all sports where we can say the same. For me the athlete that knows how to make others around them better seem to grab the prize more often than the others. Brady, Jordan, Gretzky, Bird, Magic Johnson, Montana just to name a few. Rogers doesn't have that ... neither does Lebron and on a local level Kyrie Irving doen't have it either.

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Back in the day, I had it...

Turtle in the shell...damn booze!

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Also Brady has balls the size of watermelons on the biggest stage. The throws he makes are insanely risky and pinpointed lasers. Never seen anything like it. He will put his legacy on the line and make his toughest throws of the season in overtime of a championship game. Almost all other QBs including Rodgers tend to shrivel up...much like turtle shell Manning used to.

That’s transcendence.

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More than that, Brady keeps his ego in check. He always seems to approach everything as "First, what can I do to improve" - that, to me, is the biggest difference between him and AR.

Soliel said:

Ok, I’m tired of hearing about how great Rodgers is. Ok look, Rodgers sucks and should just retire now. He’s not winning jack **** so whatever

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You forgot to tell us he’s nothing but a system QB.

Joking aside, GB is looking really bad right now. I don’t see him winning anything either.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Brady reads defenses and progressions pre-snap and with a second of snapping the ball.

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Does Rodgers not do those things? Not saying you're wrong, but I would like to see a side to side comparison. I know how good Brady is. Talk about Rodgers, not Brady.

JetFan79 said:

He's no Darnold.

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Hopefully not putting all your eggs in that basket. You guys will be drafting another QB in 3 years time.

miloofcroton said:

I think we can separate the concept of talent and the concept of value or 'actualized talent' for the sake of conversation. I'm not saying "if Jamarcus Russell was smart and motivated". I'm just saying that "if Rodgers was a coached by someone better and if Rodgers agreed to do as that coach told him instead of winging it" he would be one of the best of all time, arguably the best of all time when you consider his arm talent, mobility, and smarts. He's not like a raw project that didn't work out. His career just veered in a slightly different direction because of a couple factors.

Then, you might say "what about Elway" or a million other famous physically talented QBs. I'd say Rodgers has as much to offer as any of them.

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Honestly after the recent article that made GB look more dysfunctional than the New York Jets I sorta considered the idea that a better coach could have made Rodgers better than Brady.

Then I realized that McCarthy could have gotten a Robert Kraft style massage on the sidelines during the game and Rodgers should have still lucked into more happy endings when down 8+ points in the 2nd half than actually happened.

miloofcroton said:

Does Rodgers not do those things? Not saying you're wrong, but I would like to see a side to side comparison. I know how good Brady is. Talk about Rodgers, not Brady.

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Of course Rodgers does. He’s a very smart QB...he reads defenses well. You can’t have an INT % like that by winging it. But there are degrees of intellect and quick processing. I can play speed chess, but that doesn’t mean I’m Magnus Carlson.

Tony Romo talked about the difference between QBs who can process and get rid of th ball in 2 seconds vs. 3 seconds, and that being an enormous difference. Brady is always among the quickest releases...want to guess who almost always finishes near last?

Look at how Brady is able to dissect defenses even when his skill players are overmatched. The Atlanta and Seattle Super Bowls are examples, but there are many more. Rodgers lack of comebacks against top defenses is a great indicator of why he lacks Brady’s chess-like mind. If he can’t beat them with physical tools, it gets ugly, much like last year’s Packers season. Did you see how ineffective he was when he couldn’t scramble to buy more time and lacked explosive wideouts? Look at how Brady has done when all the advantages are on the other side. He picks away and picks away until he breaks it down (Jacksonville AFCCG comeback another great example.)

Rodgers has also failed to integrate tight ends (Finley, Bennett, Cook and Graham were all great talents who underperformed in that offense with Finley and Bennett basically saying they hated playing with him.). Considering the tight end is considered the most strategically important player on the field, this tells me again that Rodgers does not understand how to use higher level concepts to dissect a defense.

FortressX said:

This very long article from yesterday describes the extreme dysfunction in Green Bay.
Good read.
What Happened in Green Bay

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Great article

Brady has all the intangibles most other QBs dont possess including AR. If AR had TBs intangibles (used to hate that word but it works) he'd be in another stratosphere.

Aaron is not a bad QB, he is pretty good if you ask me.
He is getting a lot of hate as of late, but let’s not forget what a garbage defense he had over the years.
Also let’s not treat McCarthy being a good coach, he was an average coach with a decent offensive play calling mind and that is all.

thecore762 said:

Aaron is not a bad QB, he is pretty good if you ask me.
He is getting a lot of hate as of late, but let’s not forget what a garbage defense he had over the years.
Also let’s not treat McCarthy being a good coach, he was an average coach with a decent offensive play calling mind and that is all.

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Do you think paying him and his top 3 receivers around $60M per year (while Brady plus 3 is around 35) may have something to do with a lesser overall defense? Brady doesn’t need a pair of $10M+ receivers plus a highly paid tight end. Rodgers team is built like Manning’s teams. Win at all costs, but only if we make sure to never let go of a precious weapon for the quarterback/GM, lest he may not be coddled and his feelings may get hurt.

That moron Mike McCarthy came into Foxboro in 2010 with an injured Rodgers and put together one of the more impressive gam plans I’ve seen against the Patriots. This was the famous Dan Connelly kickoff play game. Packers had a masterful game plan with Flynn and almost knocked off a 14-2 Pats team. In 2011, Flynn threw a franchise record 6 TD passes when Rodgers sat out the last week. No, Flynn isn’t close to Rodgers. But McCarthy is no idiot at all. Rodgers seems like he’d clash with anyone. People who say he’d have more than 6 rings under Belichick need their heads examined. Belichick would be done with him after three games when it’s clear AR believes his freelancing and stats the team concept. I mean how many times have we seen this happen to a player in NE, and whombetter fits the bill than AR12? Brees and Ryan would thrive under the Patriot way. Others I’m not so sure about.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

That moron Mike McCarthy came into Foxboro in 2010 with an injured Rodgers and put together one of the more impressive gam plans I’ve seen against the Patriots. This was the famous Dan Connelly kickoff play game. Packers had a masterful game plan with Flynn and almost knocked off a 14-2 Pats team. In 2011, Flynn threw a franchise record 6 TD passes when Rodgers sat out the last week. No, Flynn isn’t close to Rodgers. But McCarthy is no idiot at all. Rodgers seems like he’d clash with anyone. People who say he’d have more than 6 rings under Belichick need their heads examined. Belichick would be done with him after three games when it’s clear AR believes his freelancing and stats the team concept. I mean how many times have we seen this happen to a player in NE, and whombetter fits the bill than AR12? Brees and Ryan would thrive under the Patriot way. Others I’m not so sure about.

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Just go back and see how much respect BB has shown for McC in interviews or press conferences. Thats all I need to know in terms of not jumping on the McC is a moron train.

The reality is that as good as Rodgers is, his biggest strength is to thrive in chaos. But this is not how you build a successful and sustainable offense.

He needs to respect playcalling and thinking he knows better and consistently changing the call at the line is exactly what derails a season.

i just think it boils down to aaron rodgers holds grudges... sometimes against his own best interests.

What enrages me the most are those stupid uniforms.

I know I joke around too much

Take a dash of discount....double it...dress it up like a dork...whaddya got?

DISCOUNT DOUBLE DORK

tuckeverlasting said:

i just think it boils down to aaron rodgers holds grudges... sometimes against his own best interests.

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I still can't fathom how he hasn't spoken to his parents in years and based on my understanding they've done nothing wrong.

Never understood the fixation this board has with Rodgers. Manning made sense because he was a constant rival, but Rodgers, like Brees, has never been a part of any rivalry with NE.