Schefter Rumor: QB Josh Rosen “could be” traded?

Real World · Apr 5, 2019

If I were the Skins I wouldn't give up the #15 pick, but would be willing to give up a 2nd plus. The loss of Alex Smith does have them over a barrel so to speak, so their loony owner could force the issue and agree on sending their 1st. My guess is if a 1st goes, we could see some pick swapping to help water down the cost for the Skins. Maybe a 1st and 5th go, and Rosen and a 3rd come back, or some mixture along those lines. It just seems steep to pay up pick #15 for a guy who went 10th last year, and is no longer a part of the Cardinals future. Not to mention how Rosen looked last season.

mgteich · Apr 5, 2019

Do you believe that Redskins would be better off with Haskins or Lock? My guess is that few would have strong objections to their analysis, if they we're to draft one of those two at 15. The objection is when they draft last year's #10 at $2M a year.
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If the analysts are right, four teams are interested in Rosen. Obviously, that might not be so. The Redskins and the others will all decide. We'll see what the market brings.

patfanken said:
I disagree on the last part, assuming they pick Murray. Not only would Rosen be a distraction the entire year, he'd be a descending asset as a back up.
No, IF Murray is the AZ pick, then Rosen will be dealt.

And because they HAVE to deal him, they won't get as much back as he's probably worth. Just as the comp for JG was less than he actually was worth because the Pats HAD to trade him, or watch him walk. Rosen can't walk but the situation of having him and Murray on the same team just isn't feasible in the real world.

Now you are right on Washington being an obvious choice. More in need of an immediate fix, and higher picks. So THEIR 2nd is worth more, as well as every other pick in every round. But stranger things have happened. their offer might not be THAT much better....if they make one at all. Maybe their happy with Keanum and McCoy for a season or two. Maybe they want to "wait until next year". Maybe AZ would rather take a BIT less from the Pats and get him out of the conference.

Of course maybe the Pats don't like Rosen, or maybe they think its still a year too early to use considerable draft capital on a QB, and THEY want to "wait until next year". Now THAT is a lot of "maybe's" Though Rosen is certainly a great off season talking point for us.

kennyb · Apr 5, 2019

Rosen is like the anti Brady in that he rubs everyone the wrong way. Combination of Jay Cutler and Ryan Leaf. Yeah. No thanks.

Bizarre people salivating over this cancer.

Ring 6 · Apr 5, 2019

kennyb said:
Rosen is like the anti Brady in that he rubs everyone the wrong way. Combination of Jay Cutler and Ryan Leaf. Yeah. No thanks.

Bizarre people salivating over this cancer.

I have never heard anything describing him like that. Do you have any examples to link?

Disco Volante · Apr 5, 2019

AndyJohnson said:
I have never heard anything describing him like that. Do you have any examples to link?

NFL executives are offering increasingly scathing takes on Josh Rosen, the most polarizing quarterback in the draft

Ring 6 · Apr 5, 2019

Disco Volante said:
NFL executives are offering increasingly scathing takes on Josh Rosen, the most polarizing quarterback in the draft

I meant actual real stuff not rumor and “ask his girlfriend, she’s right over there”

jah · Apr 5, 2019

Disco Volante said:
NFL executives are offering increasingly scathing takes on Josh Rosen, the most polarizing quarterback in the draft

Hmmmmmm, I wonder why on earth anonymous executives would be saying things that drive Rosen's value down...

kennyb · Apr 5, 2019

Elijah said:
Hmmmmmm, I wonder why on earth anonymous executives would be saying things that drive Rosen's value down...

The comments were made AFTER the draft. So no, your point is negated.

Patsgofor4 · Apr 6, 2019

Former UCLA football coach suggested his quarterback might be difficult for NFL teams because he's a millennial and needs to be challenged

"He needs to be challenged intellectually, so he doesn't get bored," Mora said. "He's a millennial. He wants to know why. Millennials, once they know why, they're good. Josh has a lot of interests in life. If you can hold his concentration level and focus only on football for a few years, he will set the world on fire. He has so much ability, and he's a really good kid."

Mora also said Rosen could be a "franchise-changer" and that he is sharp at diagnosing the game.

"He's a franchise-changer. He's got the ability to have an immediate impact. His arm talent, intelligence, and his ability to see the game and diagnose the game is rare. He'd come to the sidelines after a play, and it was uncanny — he could right away say exactly why he made every decision."

I can’t imagine that an NFL team will ever exist that has a head coaching brain and offensive system which will intellectually challenge Rosen, in order to allow him to reach his full potential. Seems like a fairy tale.....in the realm of unicorns and show ponies.

Bourne Again Christian · Apr 6, 2019

Cardinals reportedly receive two trade offers for Josh Rosen, want to 'save face' in deal

manxman2601 · Apr 6, 2019

Patsgofor4 said:
Former UCLA football coach suggested his quarterback might be difficult for NFL teams because he's a millennial and needs to be challenged

"He needs to be challenged intellectually, so he doesn't get bored," Mora said. "He's a millennial. He wants to know why. Millennials, once they know why, they're good. Josh has a lot of interests in life. If you can hold his concentration level and focus only on football for a few years, he will set the world on fire. He has so much ability, and he's a really good kid.

Much the same being said about Jerry Tillery.

RobertWeathers · Apr 6, 2019

Patsgofor4 said:
Former UCLA football coach suggested his quarterback might be difficult for NFL teams because he's a millennial and needs to be challenged

"He needs to be challenged intellectually, so he doesn't get bored," Mora said. "He's a millennial. He wants to know why. Millennials, once they know why, they're good. Josh has a lot of interests in life. If you can hold his concentration level and focus only on football for a few years, he will set the world on fire. He has so much ability, and he's a really good kid."

Mora also said Rosen could be a "franchise-changer" and that he is sharp at diagnosing the game.

"He's a franchise-changer. He's got the ability to have an immediate impact. His arm talent, intelligence, and his ability to see the game and diagnose the game is rare. He'd come to the sidelines after a play, and it was uncanny — he could right away say exactly why he made every decision."

I can’t imagine that an NFL team will ever exist that has a head coaching brain and offensive system which will intellectually challenge Rosen, in order to allow him to reach his full potential. Seems like a fairy tale.....in the realm of unicorns and show ponies.

Once here if Rosen needs intellectual stimulation he can take a philosophy class at Massasoit CC.

Simpelton · Apr 6, 2019

If he needs an intellectual challenge, coming to the most cerebral team in the NFL might be a very good thing for him.

RobertWeathers · Apr 6, 2019

Simpelton said:
If he needs an intellectual challenge, coming to the most cerebral team in the NFL might be a very good thing for him.

Yes but his coach says he has many life interests. If football isn't his first passion and priority after his family he won't make it here

Bourne Again Christian · Apr 6, 2019

ChrisR2223 said:
Cardinals reportedly receive two trade offers for Josh Rosen, want to 'save face' in deal

If Washington has their first in the conversation and they should honestly we have no chance unless we badly want him and offer a ransom.
I think Will Grier or Jarret Stidham could do well here.
My gut tells me he's a Redskin and Giants draft Haskins or Lock.

Bourne Again Christian · Apr 6, 2019

robertweathers said:
Yes but his coach says he has many life interests. If football isn't his first passion and priority after his family he won't make it here

Maybe becuase Football has never been challenging for him I believe BB could fix that.

RobertWeathers · Apr 6, 2019

ChrisR2223 said:
Maybe becuase Football has never been challenging for him I believe BB could fix that.

Possible. Some players skate by on talent alone and are never pushed on the mental aspect of the game.

Ras-IR Dowling · Apr 6, 2019

Patsgofor4 said:
Former UCLA football coach suggested his quarterback might be difficult for NFL teams because he's a millennial and needs to be challenged

"He needs to be challenged intellectually, so he doesn't get bored," Mora said. "He's a millennial. He wants to know why. Millennials, once they know why, they're good. Josh has a lot of interests in life. If you can hold his concentration level and focus only on football for a few years, he will set the world on fire. He has so much ability, and he's a really good kid."

Mora also said Rosen could be a "franchise-changer" and that he is sharp at diagnosing the game.

"He's a franchise-changer. He's got the ability to have an immediate impact. His arm talent, intelligence, and his ability to see the game and diagnose the game is rare. He'd come to the sidelines after a play, and it was uncanny — he could right away say exactly why he made every decision."

I can’t imagine that an NFL team will ever exist that has a head coaching brain and offensive system which will intellectually challenge Rosen, in order to allow him to reach his full potential. Seems like a fairy tale.....in the realm of unicorns and show ponies.

Mora also said the browns should take Darnold, not Rosen at 1 overall. Not exactly a ringing endorsement for his own QB.

Clonamery · Apr 6, 2019

robertweathers said:
Possible. Some players skate by on talent alone and are never pushed on the mental aspect of the game.

He seemed pretty challenged last year.

Ras-IR Dowling · Apr 6, 2019

Clonamery said:
He seemed pretty challenged last year.

Biggest understatement in this thread

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