Gost is back: Two-year deal

KontradictioN said:

He’s missed in some pretty big moments, and it’s hurt. Nobody can deny that.He’s hit in some pretty big moments and it’s helped us win. Nobody can deny that. Start from there then work your way to a logical conclusion. There are many, MANY kickers in the league worse than Gost. Kicking has not been a problem with him through his entire body of work. If they can bring him back at a reasonable price, they definitely should.

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Well wouldn’t say nobody lol. All in all, I’d rather have the guy but can’t say he doesn’t make me nervous. You can do a lot worse than Gost in today’s day and age. Hope he returns.

Deus Irae said:

Sure, but what has he done for the Patriots LATELY?

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Well, he's ensured that they still have some cap space left. You could argue that every day he goes unsigned, he's helping the team.

rochrist said:

Ghost lifetime pct: 87.4 Vinatieri lifetime pct: 84.3

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That difference is even more impressive when we look at the fact that SG kicked in at least 10 games a year outdoors in the northeast while AV has spent more than half of his career kicking in at least 9 games a year in domes. Not to mention the difference in the length of each kicker that requires AV's team to carry another kicker.

Curran: The Gostkowski hate still confounds

Gostkowski’s prime crime came in the 2015 AFC Championship in Denver when he missed a PAT that the Patriots ended up chasing all game and never could get over in a 20-18 loss.

Inopportune timing? No doubt. The guy also hadn’t missed one since 2006 and set an NFL record for consecutive PATs made. Does that make the guy a gagger? Hardly.

This past season, Gostkowski made 49 of 50 PATs and 32 of 37 field goals. He made all 10 PATs in the postseason and was 5 for 6 on field goals in the playoffs including a 40-yarder that sealed the damn Super Bowl.

He’s a two-time All-Pro, four-time Pro Bowler who’s made 372 of 425 field goals and 642 of 649 PATs in the 12 regular seasons since 2006. He’s missed just nine of 134 postseason kicks (field goals and PATs) in his career.

Does he give off a bulletproof vibe? No. And even reasonable observers can feel a little uneasy given the recent playoff record of Gostkowski. He’s missed a PAT in Super Bowl 51 and 52 and there’s the Denver miss we all remember.

He also missed field goal attempts in the last two Super Bowls.

How was Hall of Fame-bound, Automatic Adam? He was 26 for 37 on field goals in the postseason with the Patriots and in his last Super Bowl, he missed two field goals. He also drilled the game-winner.

But nobody’s going to come off looking like a genius running down Vinatieri, so I’ll stop right there. The point is, the Patriots couldn’t possibly have done any better at the position than they did when they drafted.

And if you’re complaining that the Patriots were able to reach accord with one of the best kickers in NFL history, feed yourself into a wood chipper.

Gostkowski Report: Money is an issue between Patriots, Gostkowski

TommyBrady12 said:

Gostkowski Report: Money is an issue between Patriots, Gostkowski

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I read that article and kept thinking about other teams (Bears) which will pay him. So, it's about home team discount?

TommyBrady12 said:

Gostkowski Report: Money is an issue between Patriots, Gostkowski

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Good to have confirmation, I suppose, but it’s been pretty apparent that money has been the issue the entire time. As of 2 weeks ago, we heard a report that they were finally making some progress. That doesn’t necessarily seem to be the case at the moment.

He is very replaceable.

He was the highest paid kicker last year, dies he want more or the Pat's want to pay less?

cmasspatsfan said:

He was the highest paid kicker last year, dies he want more or the Pat's want to pay less?

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Probably both.

I wouldn't even worry about it until after Ghost's USO tour ends.

And I love Ghost...but he shouldn't be the highest paid kicker in the league..that should be Justin Tucker. I would put Ghost at maybe #5 on the list...something like a short term deal based on the franchise tag minus 500K-1M/annually, IMO....

I am sure it doesn't help that the Niners FT'd Gould...

Kai Forbath Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

If we had to, I'd take Kai Forbath for 30% of the money. 2% less in career FGs, 4 % less in career PATs. I am not suggesting they move on, but I don't have a lot of patience for greedy kickers.

He’s a system kicker who could not even hit an extra point anywhere else so screw him

Soliel said:

He’s a system kicker who could not even hit an extra point anywhere else so screw him

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A bit of a harsh take there, eh?

supafly said:

A bit of a harsh take there, eh?

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It’s not serious. I just love ranting about systems and this vapid idea that it’s only that and nothing more

He's a CHOKER. Belichick has decided to move on. Finally!

Any bum off the street could outkick him. I bet our punter could outkick him with 10 minutes of training.

Soliel said:

It’s not serious. I just love ranting about systems and this vapid idea that it’s only that and nothing more

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Oops, sorry man. I didn’t detect the sarcasm while initially reading your comment.

Team probably wants cap flexibility for possible trades before or during the draft.

I'm saying it could also be timing, in addition to money.

kennyb said:

He's a CHOKER. Belichick has decided to move on. Finally!

Any bum off the street could outkick him. I bet our punter could outkick him with 10 minutes of training.

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Correct! I mean can you name even one kicker who blew more big time kicks in Super Bowls and afccg? I can’t think of any kicker who’s completely screwed the pooch more. Get this guy out of here. For the money he wants we could sign a different kicker for every game all year. On top of all that, I think he’s losing his hair