Kraft Orchids Case - Prosecuters Want a Tug Rule?

AndyJohnson said:

Kind of is.
This board is a hobby. And I use this board to get information and to have discussions about thinks being said that i don’t agree with.
I suppose I could use it to ignore the things I disagree with and gives likes to things I agree with and leave but I find the discussion interesting.

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Ignore is sometimes a good thing. I agree, it's fun to debate someone who disagrees with you and is making a good faith attempt at discussion. If someone seems like a annoying horse's ass who just likes to hear himself talk, I'll give him the hook.

Hot off the press: I think this means no arraignment on Thursday, going to jury trial. (Attorneys?) Sounds like negotiations broke down and we're going to have a fight. Can't wait.

venecol said:

Hot off the press: I think this means no arraignment on Thursday, going to jury trial. (Attorneys?) Sounds like negotiations broke down and we're going to have a fight. Can't wait.

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Nice to read some actual news on kraft in this thread.

venecol said:

Hot off the press: I think this means no arraignment on Thursday, going to jury trial. (Attorneys?) Sounds like negotiations broke down and we're going to have a fight. Can't wait.

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I can see Kraft going all the way with this.
Use every delay tactic they can and it keeps the video under seal which I think is their goal.

Just admit you paid for an HJ, you old fart.

TennisBallHead said:

Just admit you paid for an HJ, you old fart.

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He basically already did, the only fight now is to Keep the video away from the public.

Ras-IR Dowling said:

He basically already did, the only fight now is to Keep the video away from the public.

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When did he admit anything? He is pleading not guilty. Unless you are talking about the "non-apology" apology, then I suppose, for anyone that bought it.

venecol said:

When did he admit anything? He is pleading not guilty. Unless you are talking about the "non-apology" apology, then I suppose, for anyone that bought it.

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It was the 'Twilight Zone' of apologies ... there but not there.
Made about as much sense as a billionaire going to a run of the mill rub and tug.

More filings: April 9 case disposition. Is this the jury hearing? Seems awful fast.

venecol said:

Hot off the press: I think this means no arraignment on Thursday, going to jury trial. (Attorneys?) Sounds like negotiations broke down and we're going to have a fight. Can't wait.

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Looks like I may wind up having to eat crow on this one. Could have swore it would not get to this area

I would think the attorneys would file motions before the April 9 hearing once they review evidence.

Soliel said:

Looks like I may wind up having to eat crow on this one. Could have swore it would not get to this area

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Why? We don't know anything yet. We'll know once defense files a motion.

A hearing this fast probably means a plea bargain, not a trial, particularly where there has been no ruling on whether the tape is to be sealed, or whether it's admissible.

Looks like there's also a sealed motion by the media (?) to try to obtain video in dispute of Krafts motion to protect it. Motion is not available for viewing.

PatsDeb said:

A hearing this fast probably means a plea bargain, not a trial, particularly where there has been no ruling on whether the tape is to be sealed, or whether it's admissible.

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Isn't there time to file motions before the hearing? Hearing can always be delayed, no?

Soliel said:

I’d actually like to apologize to the entire board for my odd behavior. I’ve been misquoting people and starting arguments. This won’t happen again. I just seen gronk retire, got drunk, attacked Andy verbally. That’s just not my way usually but I do apologize

All this being said, I’m still never going to agree to tactics like we have seen in this case

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No worries, unless your apology is a Kraft apology.

But more importantly, Gronk got drunk and attacked Andy? Link?

venecol said:

Isn't there time to file motions before the hearing? Hearing can always be delayed, no?

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Yes, but they went very quickly from an arraignment where the Defendant does not have to be present (which hasn't even occurred yet) to a hearing where the Defendant must be present (Defendants have to be present for trial, pleas & sentencing) just a short time away. If they were going to be filing motions on such complex issues as whether that videotape is admissible, that would not be scheduled so quickly. I bet you the arraignment either gets cancelled/continued or the attorneys appear very quickly and tell the judge that Mr. Kraft plans to enter a plea on April 9th.

venecol said:

Looks like there's also a sealed motion by the media (?) to try to obtain video in dispute of Krafts motion to protect it. Motion is not available for viewing.

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Yep, the media smells a plea bargain too, one where the tape is sealed permanently.

PatsDeb said:

Yep, the media smells a plea bargain too, one where the tape is sealed permanently.

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Maybe the hearing is to address the motion for a protective order and the media's opposition to it.

Soliel said:

Looks like I may wind up having to eat crow on this one. Could have swore it would not get to this area

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Most didn't think it would escalate to this level, including me.