Is Peter King a dolt

or am I the fool for continuing to read his drivel?

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FMIA: Reality Not So Nice For Patriots As Rob Gronkowski, Best Tight End of His Era, Walks Away From Football

So I’m like most people who watch or work around football: When I heard that the Raiders won the award at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference for “Best Transaction of 2018” for the trade of Khalil Mack to Chicago, I thought it was a story in The Onion.

In fact, it was the strong belief of Richard Thaler, winner of the 2017 Nobel Prize for Economics. Thaler is also a football fan. He co-wrote a widely read paper in 2005 on the value of NFL draft choices (“We find that top draft picks are overvalued in a matter that is inconsistent with rational expectations”), laying out a treatise that the best draft choices actually are those low in the first round and through the second round. He has consulted with an NFL team about the value of draft choices and how to build a team. Thaler, 73, is a professor at the Booth School of Business at the University of Chicago.
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Not to argue with a Nobel Prize winner, but …
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The best team of this era, the Patriots, has mostly acted like Thaler suggests, jettisoning players on the verge of making free-agent riches or negotiating big contracts (Chandler Jones, Jamie Collins, Trey Flowers, Malcolm Butler, Trent Brown, Nate Solder) in favor of draft choices mostly.
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It’s always good to expose yourself to new ideas. I don’t buy everything Thaler is selling, but if Oakland drafts well in the next two years, he and the MIT Sloan program will look pretty smart.

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h0c2000 said:

or am I the fool for continuing to read his drivel?

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You need to ask?

Yes, he is a dolt.

I disagree...he is something more...a dur-lt...aka dur dolt

Even if I were to read his stuff, I would never admit to doing so.

1. Ignore his non-football stuff.
2. Be judicious about reading his football stuff, and never be surprised when his opinion sounds as if it's about 180 degrees to the wrong.

Problem solved

look, the fat friggin' scumbag was yukkin' it up with Jerruh Jones as the Brady witch hunt raged on. Stupid mealy mouthed fat slob sucking down ribs and wings and God knows what else as he tagged along with THAT rat degenerate Jones in the glare of the national sports media. Pizz on his stupid head for all I care.

In the dictionary next to the word "Pantywaist"



pant·y·waist
/ˈpan(t)ēˌwāst/
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN
noun

1. 1.
   a feeble or effeminate person.

He’s always been a dolt but the doltage has become so much worse in his old age.

Looks/acts like the guy in the Netflix documentary who leads the Flat Earth Society.

So.......what’s the problem with what he wrote?

h0c2000 said:

or am I the fool for continuing to read his drivel?

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I don't see anything wrong with what he opined.

TheRainMaker said:

So.......what’s the problem with what he wrote?

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It's like the sound of one hand clapping.

TheRainMaker said:

So.......what’s the problem with what he wrote?

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IcyPatriot said:

I don't see anything wrong with what he opined.

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1. He thought the story was from The Onion? I also felt the Raiders came away as massive winners from the deal and the Bears massive losers. One team loses and the other signs a star player often in sports, so where are two first round picks coming from? The exclusive privilege of paying him more than any non-QB in the league? This probably works in the NBA where superstars are everything, but how long has he been following the NFL now?

2. That the Patriots have largely followed Thayer’s ideas should be the dead giveaway right there that King is intellectually checkmated after four moves. Now he’s arguing with a Nobel Prize winner, and the most successful modern sports dynasty, without much of a clue about how things work or any attempt at an explanation beyond typical fan thumping. I’m sure he could have found plenty of economists or experts in the field, or GMs who offered an alternative take.

3. He completed his buffoonish thinking by pointing out that he’s subject to change his opinion should the Raiders develop (and maybe when Mack proves to be unworthy of an impossible contract, too?). He’ll gladly change his option with hindsight. Bold.

4. Obviously the way two draft picks pan out is a tiny sample size and beyond the point. You think a Nobel Prize winner economics looks at value, with thousands upon thousands of data points, by reviewing the randomness of one player and two draft picks?

5. King should try to understand the principles here instead of the knee jerk reaction, which is exactly why Thayer is an award winner in economics, as he doesn’t see things like your average Peter. PK comes across as usual as a dimwit who is worth a read based on his connections and the potential for some exclusive cool stuff, but intellectually is like walking into a room with five foot high ceilings.

IcyPatriot said:

I don't see anything wrong with what he opined.

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Neither did I. I do however more and more find myself enjoying the way he opines less and less. I find him more of a nebbish than a dolt, he used to have a more definitive, compact, less trying to please everybody style. Gotta say the MMQB has been a far more worthwhile read with Breer helming it.

h0c2000 said:

or am I the fool for continuing to read his drivel?

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FMIA: Reality Not So Nice For Patriots As Rob Gronkowski, Best Tight End of His Era, Walks Away From Football

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Yes. Next Question

Caveat: I did not click on the link or read the article; - I am making an assumption.


The problem with King/Thayer's theory of draft slot value is that they assume bad franchises and good franchises make equally sound football decisions.

That would apply to player evaluations on draft picks, their own players, undrafted rookie free agents and veteran free agents.

Youse guys are so mean to PK and MMQB. Peter has great takes that is why no-one listens to him anymore. In the old days (anyone my age remembers those days) we had to rely on PK or others because that is all we had. Today PK and others like him are dinosaurs, the Internet eliminated the dinosaurs because they are intellectual imbeciles. Just the way it is. Every time I think of PK I am reminded of the good ole days when we had to listen to garbage but had no choice. Anyone who listens to PK these days must be brain dead.

In defense of Peter King, he does come up with interesting human interest stories. Down a few items in the linked column was a great story about Chris Spielman and his fight against cancer. Nice tidbit:

“One more thing. It’s about perspective. One year before Stef died, I was named to the final 75 list of Pro Football Hall of Fame candidates, or something like that. I printed it out. I was so proud. I put it in the fridge in the kitchen and said to Stef, ‘Can you believe this? Look at me with these great guys in NFL history!’

“Stef looked at it, and looked at me, and said, ‘That’s great. Now, would you please get it off the kids’ artwork?’”

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I don't know if it's a generational thing with Peter King as we are the same age but I really have enjoyed his writings for many years. We also share a love of the Red Sox so he' s got that going for him. It's so easy to be negative but I have to ask what writers do you like and respect? I still enjoy reading MMQB with Breer but still harbor ill feelings towards him as he was such a Belichick hater when he wrote for the Globe.