Discussing a contract extension for Thuney

I think it's time to extend Thuney before he hits FA next year and some team throw crazy money at him.

The core of our OL is in the middle. Shaq Mason is signed for years, Andrews if I recall correctly got an extension so he is not going to be a FA soon and I think there is a chance a good center fall into our laps in this draft or the next so I'm not really worried about this position and Thuney has been excellent.

Scar has shown year after year he finds a way when it comes to tackles, it's a bigger problem to solve when the interior of the OL is a mess. That has been a strenght for us, no need to break this chemistry.

We have a left tackle for another 4 years and RT is something that could be addressed at any time, as soon as next month.

The OL situation looks good for the remainder of Brady's years.

1. Mason signed on AUG 27th last year for 5y/45M-50 max. (23.5 guaranteed)

2. 10M apy seems to be the ballpark for above average IOL at the start of this FA

3. Norwell still leads the market w 5y/66.5M (30M gtd)


While Mason is one of the very top run blocking IOLs and solid PP . Thuney is most versatile, dependable and solid in overall OL game (can slide to either T as well).

Id guess 10M py should be intriguing enough for Thuney to forgo FA and start getting paid a year early. Pats might offer a bit less than that.

There are several nice OL options in this draft that should be available for Pats - Risner, Lindstrom, Ford, Bradbury, Jenkins, Gaillard etc. - and with Dante on his borrowed time here makes sense to invest there. If they hit they might let Thuney play out the contract and hit FA..

long distance said:

1. Mason signed on AUG 27th last year for 5y/45M-50 max. (23.5 guaranteed)

2. 10M apy seems to be the ballpark for above average IOL at the start of this FA

3. Norwell still leads the market w 5y/66.5M (30M gtd)


While Mason is one of the very top run blocking IOLs and solid PP . Thuney is most versatile, dependable and solid in overall OL game (can slide to either T as well).

Id guess 10M py should be intriguing enough for Thuney to forgo FA and start getting paid a year early. Pats might offer a bit less than that.

There are several nice OL options in this draft that should be available for Pats - Risner, Lindstrom, Ford, Bradbury, Jenkins, Gaillard etc. - and with Dante on his borrowed time here makes sense to invest there. If they hit they might let Thuney play out the contract and hit FA..

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Do you want to "waste" a draft pick on a OL early when we have that many holes to fill (WR x2, DL, DE, TE)? We ain't getting anybody in FA, so we have to ace the draft on these positions. I hope we can sign him to an extesion.

Minitron said:

Do you want to "waste" a draft pick on a OL early when we have that many holes to fill (WR x2, DL, DE, TE)? We ain't getting anybody in FA, so we have to ace the draft on these positions. I hope we can sign him to an extesion.

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Not sure you can ever "waste" a draft pick on the OL??

Over the years in the culture of the NEP, they have always developed pretty good O Linemen..

The Pats will probably not pick up anyone in FA on day one, but stay tuned they will pick up some valuable players on day 2 or 3...

IMO Thuney and Mason have been the core of our OLine so the extention of Thuney's contract is an absolute must.Watching what is going on FA market and what ridiculous amount of money is offered for average players it should be expected Thuney is going to be a tidbit for many teams. It is better not to wait for the next season with Thuney's contract.

oceansizer said:

IMO Thuney and Mason have been the core of our OLine so the extention of Thuney's contract is an absolute must.Watching what is going on FA market and what ridiculous amount of money is offered for average players it should be expected Thuney is going to be a tidbit for many teams. It is better not to wait for the next season with Thuney's contract.

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Nobody's waiting. Everybody offers new contract as soon as they can (usually the season before FA for “rookies“) to the players they want to keep. The agents always or at least mostly push for FA. The players sometimes want to take early insurance and the agents give in..

Thuney has been very healthy so it makes sense for him to bet on FA.. He is not dominant player though so even if he has another solid season he might not get the very top money. On the other hand it looks to be a poor guard FA next year with Thuney possibly #1 FA at the position (at the moment it looks like it will be between him and Scherff from WAS).

Minitron said:

Do you want to "waste" a draft pick on a OL early when we have that many holes to fill (WR x2, DL, DE, TE)? We ain't getting anybody in FA, so we have to ace the draft on these positions. I hope we can sign him to an extesion.

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Taking OL is one of the very best things you can do every Draft esp. if you have Dante. Since Dante is not staying long and next year OL FA looks very poor esp. IOL i feel pretty positive Pats will indeed pick OL with one of their first 3 picks and then probably another one later on and UDFA (Karras being UFA as well). It is also a very good OL draft imo that should offer good opportunities across the board.

Maybe you have many holes to fill but im sure NE will go to draft with a solid roster in place & without glaring needs as always under BB. Then it will be about the opportunities that Draft will present to BB and Nick..

And they dont need to “ace“ anything - just building a roster as usual..

Minitron said:

Do you want to "waste" a draft pick on a OL early when we have that many holes to fill (WR x2, DL, DE, TE)? We ain't getting anybody in FA, so we have to ace the draft on these positions. I hope we can sign him to an extesion.

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It is not ''waste'' they have 7 picks early and i expect them to draft a OT/G or a G/C and develop. We don't know if Thuney will agree with an extension and they need a plan B like Wynn. I like Karras a LOT as a backup G/C and i love Waddle as a ST. Andrews is signed only for more 2 years too. They can focus on a C and develop him as a G too.


Looking boards i would love:

This draft is stacked with DL/WR/TE. They can find solid contributors on rounds 3-4

CB - Why ? We only have 2 ''outside'' CB and we always invest a lot of capital on this position i would love a DT here too
ED - There are a lot of good options this early. Anthony Nelson is one under radar guy that i would love. Charles Omenihu is my binkie
OT/G - Again lots of good option this early
S - FA is booming for S (almost 15 hit FA) so i expect one of them to slide
TE - There are a LOT of guys that i love. So i would grab a top talent with our #1 pick or any of the middle guys because i fully expect Gronk to come back
WR - Stacked. Grab one of the guys in 3/4 and a late pick or 2
DL or CB - Again is all about value and how our FA will develop. If the ''guy'' is there pick a DL but if he is not there grab the best talent avaiable or trade down.
WR/TE are more stacked so i would pick a CB early.

I normally prefer to let players walk in FA and draft their replacement to keep costs down.

That being said ...hard to say how much longer Scar will be with the team. His OL teaching abilities are through the roof.

I would rather lockup the existing OL for many years to keep the continuity there in case Scar leaves sooner rather then later.

It's going to be up to the player we are very lucky to have Mason Today. And if Thuney thinks he can make a heck of a lot more he could snub the Pats first offer: again it depends on the player and Agent.

They will let Thuney walk and its not because they don't like him. Its because they are not paying him the same as Shaq which is what he'll get on the open market and he knows that

robertweathers said:

They will let Thuney walk and its not because they don't like him. Its because they are not paying him the same as Shaq which is what he'll get on the open market and he knows that

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Could draft a tackle (or otherwise acquire one) and plug Wynn in at guard. Thuney has been real good, but Pats are so good at developing o linemen I don’t mind as much just developing another one cheap.

Depends what they are planning with wynn. Is he going to be a tackle or an upgrade on thuney? The other guard position is already solidified w mason.

I'd give him an Andrews type of extension.....maybe a few $$ more

I would also draft an OL.......hell, I would use more than half of all my picks in every draft on trench guys

Froob said:

Could draft a tackle (or otherwise acquire one) and plug Wynn in at guard. Thuney has been real good, but Pats are so good at developing o linemen I don’t mind as much just developing another one cheap.

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Quite frankly I think that is their plan OR move Thuney to LT and Wynn to LG.

Thuney only has a 32 1/4 arm length while Wynn is 33 3/8.

I bet they'll experiment but Thuney has been so good at LG I'd be afraid to mess with it.

Lineman, O and D can be found In later rounds in the draft because a lot of teams build their team outside in, BB builds inside out which is why he rarely takes a WR or RB in the beginning of the draft.

oceansizer said:

IMO Thuney and Mason have been the core of our OLine so the extention of Thuney's contract is an absolute must.Watching what is going on FA market and what ridiculous amount of money is offered for average players it should be expected Thuney is going to be a tidbit for many teams. It is better not to wait for the next season with Thuney's contract.

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The Pats are currently only $12MM under the cap. Just WHERE are you going to find the money to pay Thuney for an extension. Also, given what we've seen the market be for less than stellar OLmen, why the F would Thuney even want an extension, when he can play for a year and cash in big time in true FA.

Listen, I'd love to sign them all up....well mostly all of them, but the money simply isn't there right now.

patfanken said:

The Pats are currently only $12MM under the cap. Just WHERE are you going to find the money to pay Thuney for an extension. Also, given what we've seen the market be for less than stellar OLmen, why the F would Thuney even want an extension, when he can play for a year and cash in big time in true FA.

Listen, I'd love to sign them all up....well mostly all of them, but the money simply isn't there right now.

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Shaque Mason year ago was also seen by many of us as a gonner because of lack of money. However in a consequence of some movements he was extended an he is in the team. It all depends on some contracts' reatructures and Thuney's position in the eyes of BB. Nothing is impossible when Thuney is priority for the Pats.

oceansizer said:

Shaque Mason year ago was also seen by many of us as a gonner because of lack of money. However in a consequence of some movements he was extended an he is in the team. It all depends on some contracts' reatructures and Thuney's position in the eyes of BB. Nothing is impossible when Thuney is priority for the Pats.

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Here's the thing. Currently we are seeing OLmen of dubious accomplishments getting around $11MM/yr and more. Thuney HAS 2 rings and 3 starting seasons on one of the best OL's in the league. Bottom line, what kind of deal do you suggest he take from the Pats when he is looking at over $12MM/yr in just 1 year?

Just sayin'

4 year 44 million