New Proposal to replace onside kicks!!!

here's my idea...whenever a team wants to try this crap, they have to get Goodell out on the field...and then five players from both teams rush the shythead and pound him into the ground...they then proceed to F stomp his face into a blood pulp only stopping when they see brain tissue leaking out...then they flip a coin. Problem solved

Hard pass for me

Joker said:

here's my idea...whenever a team wants to try this crap, they have to get Goodell out on the field...and then five players from both teams rush the shythead and pound him into the ground...they then proceed to F stomp his face into a blood pulp only stopping when they see brain tissue leaking out...then they flip a coin. Problem solved

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Sounds reasonable to me.

Just giving the ball to a team that has not earned it is idiotic. All these gimmicky rules being created to take special teams out of the game. Awful. Pretty soon they will adopt that stupid Ravens rule to allow you to score by kicking off through the uprights.

Brick27 said:

The onside kick is suppose to be risky and low odds. If you find yourself in that situation, it SHOULD be difficult and unlikely. Why does a team deserve a more favorable means to get the ball game when they’ve pinned themselves in a situation where they haven’t earned it? What are the odds of converting from 4th and 15? Would think they’re more likely.

Similar to KC Queefs b*tching about both teams getting the ball in OT, it sounds like just another rule that would employ even more favorable circumstances for a team to score points, and less focus on the other phases of the game.

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The more I think about it, I think it actually adds a lot of potential excitement to the end of a game. And the new kick off rules suck. Also there is talk about doing away with kick offs (terrible idea). But if they do that then they will need some kind of "on sides" play.

jrfitz06 said:

The Denver Broncos just proposed a rule change to replace the onside kick,

Instead of having the onside kick teams would have the option to take the ball 4th & 15 for their OWN 35 Yard Line.

No I don't think this has any chance of passing this year but this could be the rule within the next 5 years.

What do you guys Think???

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...e-kicks/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.48afa7c768c7

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None of the major 4 sports has gone through as much change over the years as football and major ones (Line of scrimmage concept introduced.... forward pass was a bitter fight to add)

This change seems kind of cool to me.

Nah. I think it should be harder to get another possession. If you’re playing a defense with secondaries like what we had from 2008ish to 2012 where picking up 3rd and 10+ was like barely a hurdle then its way too easier than an onside.

Gwedd said:

I think it works fine the way it is. IF something has to change, then a better idea is to move the receiving team's players back another 5 yards or so.

But otherwise, I think it needs to be left alone.

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No, something needs to be changed because the new “no running start on kickoffs” rule has killed off onsides kicks.

Wheelman said:

No, bring back old kickoff rules, eliminate thursday night football. Problem solved.

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Farkin A

And by the way the forward pass was a dik move but I'm used to it now.

Seriously just LEAVE THE GAME BE.

Hey new trivia stat for Dynasty Trivia: Won Super Bowls in 6 different versions of Football.

It's only a matter of time before the NFL imitates the AAF's kickoff and onside kick rules. Bit by bit this sport is turning into something I have very little interest in. I wish there was some way to see 1960s & 1970s football in high definition.

mosslost said:

The more I think about it, I think it actually adds a lot of potential excitement to the end of a game. And the new kick off rules suck. Also there is talk about doing away with kick offs (terrible idea). But if they do that then they will need some kind of "on sides" play.

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Yeah lets scrap competition in favor of “excitement”. If a team scores to cut their deficit to 7 with 2 minutes left on the game clock...guess they should just move towards the side of excitement, and getting that team the ball back, rather than honor everything that happened to get to that point.

Gwedd said:

...then a better idea is to move the receiving team's players back another 5 yards or so...

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If the Park Avenue suits insist on having the kicking team's players no more than 5 yards from the tee, then I propose that the receiving team has to be no fewer than 5 yards beyond the 10-yard minimum, then let them meet somewhere in between.

It's yet another absolutely idiotic rule change suggestion. Naturally, some people will be fools enough to like it.

jrfitz06 said:

I think its a great idea it and there is a lot of room to tweak it so the percentage converted dont get to crazy either way ie if 4th & 15 is only converted 10% of the time they could change it to 4th & 10 or make it 4th & 20 if teams start converting it too much, there's a lot of room for growth to make games more competitive.

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Maybe they adjust the rule in real time, by moving the distance based on real time stats for a desired success rate. So the announcer says something like, "we started the day at 4th and 17, but there have been two successful conversions, making it now 4th and 19. This is the furthest back it's been in five years."

It keeps the audience involved and more chatroom buzz.

We'll talk about how bad the offense is in a given year. "Can you believe it? They only have to go 10 yards for the onsides."

bormio said:

Just giving the ball to a team that has not earned it is idiotic. All these gimmicky rules being created to take special teams out of the game. Awful. Pretty soon they will adopt that stupid Ravens rule to allow you to score by kicking off through the uprights.

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Lets see.

Proposed overtime rule change: team that loses toss that gives up a TD gets the ball.
Proposed onside kick rule change: team gets it at their 35 and its 4th and 15.

I'm sick of these entitlement based rule changes.

If you want the ball, go out and take it. EARN IT.

Sissification of the NFL in full force.

Like it or not, the kickoff is on life support.

Have a Twitter vote in real time - a modern day Christians and lions thing

Gator Mike said:

Like it or not, the kickoff is on life support.

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And, that is the real impetus behind this rule change proposal. I’ve actually come to grips with it as I understand it from a player safety standpoint. The collisions are just too high speed. I’ll miss the excitement of the play, but it has mostly become an exercise in watching the ball kicked out of the end zone anyway.

My proposal to replace the role of the onside kick once the kickoff is eliminated is not throwing a tired defense that had just been scored on out there to make a play. My proposal is: the onside kick. Give the scoring team two options a game to try an onside kick rather than just give possession to the other team. I would keep the no running start rules put in last season but go back to allowing teams to stack the side where the ball is being kicked to increase the odds of success a little.

Its a no for me.

Kenneth Sims said:

And, that is the real impetus behind this rule change proposal. I’ve actually come to grips with it as I understand it from a player safety standpoint. The collisions are just too high speed. I’ll miss the excitement of the play, but it has mostly become an exercise in watching the ball kicked out of the end zone anyway.

My proposal to replace the role of the onside kick once the kickoff is eliminated is not throwing a tired defense that had just been scored on out there to make a play. My proposal is: the onside kick. Give the scoring team two options a game to try an onside kick rather than just give possession to the other team. I would keep the no running start rules put in last season but go back to allowing teams to stack the side where the ball is being kicked to increase the odds of success a little.

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Would you need to use one of your challenges if the referees miscounted how many onside options the team had used?