Kraft Orchids Case - Prosecuters Want a Tug Rule?

primetime said:

I know a lot of lawyers in New York and not a one of them claims to have in-depth knowledge of Chinatown rub-n-tugs sheerly by virtue of being a lawyer in New York.

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Most criminal lawyers know how this works.

PP2 said:

Gotta be ****ing kidding me

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That’s probably the most truthful thing he’s ever said lol

Poor choice of tweets to discredit him

R Kelly FTW

YOUGOTMOSSED said:

What "um"? Trafficked means forced. Those Korean girls didn't pay some guy $50k to bring them over so they could land a waitress job in NY.

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Do you think sex trafficking just generally isn't a thing? Because women being lured illegally to the USA under false pretenses only to end up working as sex slaves in seedy massage parlors is, sadly, a not-uncommon story.

Bart's CTE symptoms are showing.

YOUGOTMOSSED said:

The deal in NYC typically $200/session. The girl usually sees 10 clients/day. She keeps 1/2. The house takes the other half and pays security, the phone girl, and the cook/cleaning lady.

I know this from being a lawyer in NYC (not a client).

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I hope the girls keep 100% of their tips. Just don't tell the I R S.

BadMoFo said:

Bart's CTE symptoms are showing.

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I hate him

SBLIII said:

It's already been explained in this thread that this is not possible.

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That's not true.

Roger can do LITERALLY whatever he wants

However, I dont think he will in this case over a misdemeanor charge.

The headline is meant for the reader to consume fake news that Kraft him self was running a sex ring.

Basically as long we get numbers 7 and 8 next two years I'm good.

BadMoFo said:

Bart's CTE symptoms are showing.

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My lord. What a complete dumbass.

Why on earth would the football team be punished?

Actually the last time I was really embarrassed as a Pats fan of off the field stuff was in the 80s when Zeke Mowatt shook his junk at Female reporter Olsen in the locker room during the Kiam years

Triumph said:

The police have video of Bob Kraft.

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Triumph said:

Do you imply that the police misrepresented video of Bob Kraft in a sex act?

If Im Bob Kraft I want you on my legal team.

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I'm not implying anything, and I'm not talking about the specifics of this particular case. I'm saying that what police claim, what gets charged, and what gets argued by proscutors in court is not always 100% identical or 100% accurate, so PatsFan2 doesn't know what the hell he's talking about when he says that Kraft doesn't have a prayer, because he hasn't seen the evidence.

Can we just turn the team over to BB now make him owner and over seerer bump Mcdaniels to assistant coach and move on from this.
Poor Schiano can't get away from controversy

festy1986 said:

That's not true.

Roger can do LITERALLY whatever he wants.

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No he can't. With disciplinary issues with players he can. He has no power over the 31 men and 1 board who employ him.

BadMoFo said:

Bart's CTE symptoms are showing.

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He has PDS

(Patriots Derangement Syndrome)

festy1986 said:

That's not true.

Roger can do LITERALLY whatever he wants

However, I dont think he will in this case over a misdemeanor charge.

The headline is meant for the reader to consume fake news that Kraft him self was running a sex ring.

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He can do literally whatever he wants in terms of punishing players due to Article 46 of the CBA and the precedent established by the league winning the Brady case. But the CBA only governs the working relationship between the league and players - it's an agreement reached between the league and the players' union.

Article 46 does not apply to the league's working relationship to the teams. That's a whole separate issue, which frankly should have been tested harder after Deflategate but Bob decided it was better to roll over "for the the good of the 32".

In any case, this is clearly an area that the league doesn't want to test anyway. The Patriots weren't punished for employing a murderer, none of the teams that have employed the long procession of woman-beaters that have come through the league have been punished for it, the Colts weren't punished for being owned by a drug trafficker, etc.

KontradictioN said:

The league can do whatever the hell they want. Article 46, mother****er.

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Article 46 is irrelevant in this one. Article 46 is part of the CBA -- the agreement between management and the players.

This will be governed by the NFL Constitution and Bylaws -- the agreement between the teams. My guess is that in some ways Goodell will have a freer hand than he does with the players but in other ways he'll be more restricted.

primetime said:

Yeah Article IX of the bylaws covers conduct detrimental to the league, but most of it involves financial relationships for owners and tampering and such. No mention of a morality clause or criminal behavior by ownership.

Also doing this is conduct detrimental to the league, the more you know:

Dispense beer or other beverage in NFL stadia except by pouring into cups;

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that rule is there because #ThereWasAnIncident.

primetime said:

No he can't. With disciplinary issues with players he can. He has no power over the 31 men and 1 board who employ him.

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Yea. You tell irsay that.

primetime said:

Yes, they go into massive debt they can't pay off to come to the US, often basically sold by their families or with the promise of a new life (usually with remittances to their families), and that debt is the coercion that hangs over their head as they're forced to see clients for pitiful change in exploitative, unsafe, and unhygienic conditions. That "payment" is literally the trafficking part you dope - it's indentured servitude, plain and simple.

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The Korean girls who work in NY were hookers in Korea. When they get older, their client base shrinks so they come to NY to continue working. After a few years, they either cash out or open a place of their own.