Rapoport: Gronk played thru achilles, disk issues

[QUOTE="dtbrks, post: 5519072, member: 5298”]

I can still lift heavy but can’t run. Maybe because I’m 49 as well. Lol[/QUOTE]

I can’t run either. I’m not injured. I’m just usually sitting down.

QuantumMechanic said:

Meanwhile, Giardi reports that NE believes Gronk’s injuries are related to him doing the TB12 method.

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Not surprised. There is a trade-off in terms of doing less weight work that might affect a TE just a tiny slightly bit more than a QB with all the hits he takes at running speed. That being said it is absolutely asinine to talk about what causes injuries. One bad hit or angle and you land on IR no matter what your training looks like.

As a crossfitter who has had Achilles tendinitis, I can tell you it slows you down a lot. And I am judging myself compared to some good athlete, but also out of shape middle aged men. I can only imagine the impact it would have when you are going against the elite athlete athletes of the NFL.

And I wouldn’t be so fast to dismiss his change in conditioning having a negative affect. Yes, pliability does, at least in theory, make your body more flexible to withstand injuries like that. But an NFL conditioning program is built specifically around the specific athlete to make them stronger in areas they need most.

I bet to an untrained observer, the Patriots’ conditioning program and the TB12 method are very similar. It is a misnomer that the NFL conditioning program is all weight lifting. It the more subtle differences that are the big differences in the program.

He looked close to GRONK in the kc game. That fade towards the end of regulation is the type of play we may need him to make that seperates him. Wasn’t there most of the season.

So hes isnt cooked, was just injured, I really like our chances today with an 100% Gronk and Edelman.

If Gronk is 100% healthy we will win big.

SBLIII said:

If Gronk is 100% healthy we will win big.

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Well he was last year.

As just another of millions who have had both bulging discs, and herniated discs, and surgery, I cannot imagine a scenario where lifting weights, is less dangerous, then stretching exercises.

VectorPrime said:

Well he was last year.

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which has no bearing on this year.

Ive had the achilles thing. It was bad. Not easy to run thru it even 15 years ago for me. Totally would slow you down and then some. So if its better then watch the fck out!

disk issues suck, he must have had a lot of those during his careers already, I can't image how ****ed up his MRI of the back is gonna look like. I have had 3 surgeries on the same fused disk now and it still hurts me today, can't really do a lot society activities. That guy probably will retire after going through all those pains.

LOL, at first I thought the OP made up that bit about Giardi as a joke. I didn't know he really wrote that/said that.

Chevrolet said:

As a physician, this explains a great deal. Now I understand why Gronk looked so hobbeld this year. If it is true that he is NOW 100% recovered..this is huge NEWS. Achilles tendonitis is extremely painful and defintely limits how fast you can run and how quickly and precisely you can turn. Obviously a bulging disk putting pressure on nerve roots to the legs negatively impacts ability to run, jump and turn.

If Gronk is 100% today with truly no achilles tendon pain or back pain, we may see the Gronk of yesteryear and I think the possibility of 8-10 catches and over 100 yards with red zone miracle catches likely.

Let's hope its true

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We need a like/useful button.

VectorPrime said:

Well he was last year.

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Meh, the defense wasn’t 100% “healthy” then.

KontradictioN said:

Meh, the defense wasn’t 100% “healthy” then.

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also, no edelman and Cooks decided to run in a circle and get his head knocked off

KontradictioN said:

Lmao more weight lifting wouldn’t have helped prevent either of those two injuries. Whomever gave Giardi that quote, if there was someone who really did, is a moron.

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All "resistance training", whether it's from weights or bands is designed to do ONE thing. The purpose of any such exercise is "fatigue the muscle to failure". If you can do that, then, given sufficient rest, the muscle recovers and gets bigger and stronger. In an ideal world, taking every bit of your energy doing your last 5lb biceps curl, fulfills that definition.

That's it. It isn't exercise calculus. The only thing that EVERY differs is how efficient your exercise system is to getting you to that muscle fatigue. Personally I don't belief high weights at low reps does the job. I don't do anything that I can't do 18-22 reps. The object being is working at a low enough weight that you can still do 8-10 reps AFTER you start to feel the effects of lactic acid build up. That's when you know you have fatigued the muscle to failure efficiently (2-3 sets, 18-22 reps).

Unfortunately that means you have deal with more pain than you would in other programs, and while I "ate" that pain in my youth (before 50 ). I don't deal with it nearly as well now.

Sometimes I wonder if the whole, "pliability" vs "explosive" debate is really nothing more than semantics, because the underlying truth is still all about "fatiguing the muscle to failure, then building it up through rest and diet....and then doing it again.

Lmao.. keep spinning.. to puff up prior opinion.

Playing thru.. FYI , is AKA being NFL football player.

QuantumMechanic said:

According to Rapoport Gronk played through tendonitis of the achilles as well as a “bulging disk”.

Apparently the issues are better. Still, while tendonitis is a transient, relatively harmless thing, I’d have to think the bulging disk - even if it somehow has simmered down - is cause for concern.

Meanwhile, Giardi reports that NE believes Gronk’s injuries are related to him doing the TB12 method.

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I think he had hangnail issues also...