No matter who wins, Saints fans will say it's tainted

dannydyn said:

I've watched plenty of Rams games where I saw him going ape5hit on the sidelines after much lesser bad calls.

What I want him to say? I don't know, how about something like "It's unfortunate, but I don't make the calls".

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen McVay go crazy over a call.
What he should say is what is the best message to his team. I think he did that.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

So there is a way to make it perfect then.

The winner of the coin toss must pass “the lottery” test. There are a hundred balls bouncing around, and three of them are marked with a skull and crossbones. The ref selects a ball, and 97% of the time, the coin toss winner avoids the skull and crossbones, but when it does hit, it’s an automatic loss for the receiving team.

Now those odds are 50% even, and not 53%.

Perfect?

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Actually, the odds of the visiting team winning when getting the ball first are less than 50%. The solution seems obvious - take the coin flip out of the decision and have the kickoff go to the visiting team.

denverpatsfan said:

The NYFL does not care. They want a champ in LA for the new stadium. Pats will have to beat the refs too next Sunday.

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Q...F...T.

Park Avenue so really, Really badly wanted an Arena Bowl match-up of Goff vs Mahomey.

Anyone with 2 eyes and a functioning brain should see the not-so-Invisible Hand applying the pressure to the easily-corruptible zebras.

Seriously, look at that ENTIRE drive by the Quiefs to re-take the lead at the 2:00 warning.

The double standard applied to NO & NE in favor of LA & KC was obvious to the USA, but Stokoe truly believed that as long as the Patriots were one of the teams being raped, then the general public wouldn't really give that big a sh!t. What he likely didn't anticipate is the degree to which the Saints organization as well as its fan base rose in righteous indignation, AS IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD HAVE DONE.

Park Avenue got busted, plain & simple.

captain stone said:

Q...F...T.

Park Avenue so really, Really badly wanted an Arena Bowl match-up of Goff vs Mahomey.

Anyone with 2 eyes and a functioning brain should see the not-so-Invisible Hand applying the pressure to the easily-corruptible zebras.

Seriously, look at that ENTIRE drive by the Quiefs to re-take the lead at the 2:00 warning.

The double standard applied to NO & NE in favor of LA & KC was obvious to the USA, but Stokoe truly believed that as long as the Patriots were one of the teams being raped, then the general public wouldn't really give that big a sh!t. What he likely didn't anticipate is the degree to which the Saints organization as well as its fan base rose in righteous indignation, AS IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD HAVE DONE.

Park Avenue got busted, plain & simple.

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I said it on the other thread, but of all the NFL conspiracy theories I’ve heard, “the NFL told the refs to make sure the Rams win because they want them to be champions when they move into their new stadium” is probably in the dumbest top 5%.

If the Saints got that PI call they would of got a first down and been able to run the clock down to 10 seconds than kick a field goal to win the game and we would've had ONE HELL of a Super Bowl.

Saints run one play, probably takes 3-4 seconds off so let’s say 1:53 left in the 4th. Rams now out of timeout and with a 40 second play clock that’s 80 seconds burned.

So after the field goal, probably less than 20 seconds or around there. Probably less than that if the Saints were going for a touchdown (which they should if they got a 1st & Goal).

patfanken said:

The game SHOULD have been over if the Saints had just run the ball 3 times and kicked a FG, leaving the Rams with about 45 seconds and no TO's to get the ball into FG range. Thanks to this controversy, noone is talking about the EPIC blunder Payton made before that play.

No is talking about how instead of getting his team to move on and play the rest of the game, he was seen continually whining to the refs just like his team. Can you see Bill doing that? No he would have simply destroyed the tablet and moved on to the next play.

Peyton should be ashamed. He didn't do his job, and his team suffered for it. They had TONS of time to recover from that bad call. They didn't, and they lost. I feel bad for their fans. I feel bad for Brees. But I have nothing but DISTAIN for Sean Peyton.

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Absolutely Bill would've been furious. He's lashed out at officials before. And you really think the Rams kicker wouldn't have attempted to kick a FG from 60 yards, inside a dome no less? Goff could run a play or two to get within the margin for Greg Zuerlein to make that kick. He's kicked from 60 yards before twice.

Quest4SixHomie said:

...Saints run one play, probably takes 3-4 seconds off so let’s say 1:53 left in the 4th. Rams now out of timeout and with a 40 second play clock that’s 80 seconds burned.

So after the field goal, probably less than 20 seconds or around there. Probably less than that if the Saints were going for a touchdown (which they should if they got a 1st & Goal).

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Rams had 2 timeouts remaining, not 1.

The Pats could win 52--0 and many would still say it's tainted.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
Embrace the hate.

Who cares?

f*ck the Saints

archstanton543 said:

It's about as perfect as you're going to get. The winner of the coin toss wins about 53% of the time.

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And unlike the old OT rules, there is a potential advantage for the second team to get the ball.

Advantage for receiving team:
1.) Can win with TD (never letting other team get the ball)
2.) Will get the ball first in a 'sudden death' scenario if both teams trade FGs.

Advantage for original kicking team
1.) If receiving team scores a FG, the team will have the advantage of using all FOUR downs to get into field goal range


So the scale is still tilted towards the receiving team, but at least the second team does get some advantage.

ausbacker said:

As much as I sympathize with Saints fans, try losing an undefeated season on what should have been called a sack or at the very least, an offensive holding penalty.

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I certainly agree, but those calls can get overlooked all the time.

The Saints play was OTHER-WORLDLY bad as in 999 officials out of 1000 would have thrown a flag. Like this was SOOOOO bad even the league couldn't spin it into a valid non-call.

I just don't care. One of the worst fanbases in sports with their only success being tied into bounties. Did the call suck? sure. You know what else sucked? Payton's coaching and Brees throws.

TB_Helmet said:

I said it on the other thread, but of all the NFL conspiracy theories I’ve heard, “the NFL told the refs to make sure the Rams win because they want them to be champions when they move into their new stadium” is probably in the dumbest top 5%.

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It's amazing that people think the Rams have fans. There's not even a goddamn Rams bar in DC. For reference, there's a ****ing Jaguars bar in DC. Yeah, this is the team that the league has decided to champion by, uh, giving them long odds at winning on two 50+ yard field goals after giving the Saints the ball at midfield (after a gift DPI call) in overtime.

If the Saints drove down the field and scored in overtime, the outrage would be over the makeup phantom pass interference call on that ****ty backup tight end who dropped a touchdown in the 1st quarter rather than the non-call.

Maybe it's just years of idiots alleging conspiracy every time a call goes the Patriots way, or else people on this board alleging conspiracy every time a call goes against the Patriots (despite our team's historical success) that just has me fed up with these ridiculous conspiracy allegations. Was the call ****? Sure. Did it cost the Saints the game? Probably, though not in a vacuum - they still should have won, and they should have been running it... and if Robey-Coleman played the ball well he would've picked it off because it was a dangerous throw on an out, and and and.

Was the call part of a nebulous conspiracy to get a team literally nobody cares about to the Super Bowl because of some convoluted reason involving a new stadium? No. Obviously not. Don't be ****ing stupid. The Rams needed like a last-second 60 yard field goal to tie the game and an interception literally made by a guy on his back on the Rams side of the field in overtime for a chance at a long field goal for the win. One thinks the refs would've done a better job with the fix if it was really in.

Yeah but Ben Dreith though.

Saints fans I feel your pain, but some day things will even out.

Oh and F Don Shula also.

I heard one of them say "it just sucks because now Brady will get his 6th ring since Brees isn't there to stop him, and now people will actually think he's better than Brees."

I like the Saints (our *Gate brothers) and their fans but I don't really give a hoot what they say in this regard. Yes it was a bad call, but they were in their own stadium, had 60 minutes, and ball first in OT to win it.

They choked.

IllegalContact said:

f*ck the Saints

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I’ve got a taint for them.

Patriots were screwed in the 2006 AFCCG when Face Guarding (a penalty which did not exist) was called on the Patriots giving the Colts the ball on the 1 yard line. League Admits One Blown Call in AFC Championship

The non call of the hold against the Giants in the SB on that play

The of course the Sugar Bear Hamilton ruffing the passer call

The Seahawks getting screwed in the SB against the Steelers Super Bowl XL referee regrets that mistakes 'impacted the game'

and a ton more. Bad calls happen.