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Baseball had something similar in the World Series



It was an obvious wrong call, that cost the Cardinals game 6, which would have given them the WS. Instead the Royals came back won game 6 (by the guy that Denkinger called safe scoring the tying run) and then game 7. Now baseball get these calls right. Of course baseball calls are much more black and white than football calls.

You can't legislate judgment calls, but I think the CFL has a decent rule that you can challenge a PI call, and if it is obvious, they call PI (or overturn the PI call). Any rule change would have to be for PI and PI only, as there is holding on every play. Same amount of challenges, just allow for PI to be challenged.

But Watson is right, that rat bastard Goodell needs to speak about this, even if he came out and said, refs are imperfect and they missed the call, we will try and do better and maybe sugguest that the competition committee look into a way to address egregious errors such as this one. But his silence basically fuels the conspiracy theories.

Baseball had something similar in the World Series



It was an obvious wrong call, that cost the Cardinals game 6, which would have given them the WS. Instead the Royals came back won game 6 (by the guy that Denkinger called safe scoring the tying run) and then game 7. Now baseball get these calls right. Of course baseball calls are much more black and white than football calls.

You can't legislate judgment calls, but I think the CFL has a decent rule that you can challenge a PI call, and if it is obvious, they call PI (or overturn the PI call). Any rule change would have to be for PI and PI only, as there is holding on every play. Same amount of challenges, just allow for PI to be challenged.

But Watson is right, that rat bastard Goodell needs to speak about this, even if he came out and said, refs are imperfect and they missed the call, we will try and do better and maybe sugguest that the competition committee look into a way to address egregious errors such as this one. But his silence basically fuels the conspiracy theories.


We’ve all known for over a decade that if there’s a wrong way to handle a given situation that’s what Roger will do. He’s a perfect example of it being more important to be born wealthy and lucky than anything else in life.
 
Generation Outrage....a delicate faction that meanders through life feeling perpetually infringed upon by perceived outside forces that have no direct influence on their real lives.

This week, their chorus sings:
"Roger...please say something that will make me feel better"
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I'm a huge fan of Watson, both on and off the field, but I think he's letting his emotions get the better of him on this one. The Saints still had numerous chances, on offense and defense, to stop the Rams, but they failed to overcome the (admittedly horrendous) no call call.
I’m with you here, big fan of Watson.

I will say that I get the frustration of Goodell’s silence on this. Seems like he’s trying to sweep this all under the rug somehow.
 
It really wasn't one PI non-call--it was two. On the OT interception, the receiver was tackled before the ball arrived. This would be OK if the ball was tipped, but replays showed that it clearly wasn't. I have no idea why no one (other than Lombardi) is paying attention to this.
 
This whole Benjamin Watson issue would never have happened if he didn't get drafted by the Patriots. Uh oh, not again.
 
The conspiracy accusations are ridiculous.

Assuming arguendo that the game was rigged for LA, the last thing someone arranging the rigging or carrying out the rigging on the field wants is do to it by some obvious, unsubtle thing. You do it by subtle things all along the way.

And they didn't even do a great job rigging it. Yes, that call stopped NO from winning the game right there, but it didn't do any sort of useful job in guaranteeing that LA would advance.
 
The conspiracy accusations are ridiculous.

Assuming arguendo that the game was rigged for LA, the last thing someone arranging the rigging or carrying out the rigging on the field wants is do to it by some obvious, unsubtle thing. You do it by subtle things all along the way.

And they didn't even do a great job rigging it. Yes, that call stopped NO from winning the game right there, but it didn't do any sort of useful job in guaranteeing that LA would advance.

Obvious is doing things along the way that establish a pattern, as can plainly be seen from the arguments being presented most everyone accepts anyone can blow a call ergo blowing a call is the more easily accepted and explained approach. Where it all falls apart is not one person 'missed' the call, at least 4 did. Again I am not saying there was a conspiracy, only that the argument does in fact hold water and while not particularly likely it is far from ridiculous.
 
I don't think I've ever bought into a conspiracy theory in my life but that non call stinks to high heaven. It isn't far fetched the league wanted that particular LA team to win, gotta sell those high end P$Ls. Since the Chargers don't get anything out of it they are practically giving there's away and Rams sales have been slow. Kroenkes over priced palace is not just going to be the home of two teams but it is also going to be the new home of the NFLN. Yeah, no conflict of interest there...:rolleyes:

Yeah, but do you really think they’d be dumb enough to get orders to fix a game in writing (email from Goodell to ref(s): “Fix the game plz kbye) ? And multiple people would know about the said conspiracy. Someone would talk at some point
 
Yeah, but do you really think they’d be dumb enough to get orders to fix a game in writing (email from Goodell to ref(s): “Fix the game plz kbye) ? And multiple people would know about the said conspiracy. Someone would talk at some point

Of course not lol
 
A game should never come down to a single call.

That ignores the entire narrative that lead you to depending on a ref. Which is terrible strategy.

So many times after a Pats loss, I want to chalk it up to a bad call (2015 AFCCG, holding in SB, etc.,) But you should never be depending on the refs for a win. Period. Ice up, son.

The best advice I ever received while playing sports was to look at the umpire as a scoreboard. Look at it and see what the call was but then get back to the task at hand. It served me well as a youngster.

I then taught the same thing to kids that I coached later on in my life and tried to teach it to the parents. I even took it a step further by having my players take notice when opponents reacted poorly to a decision, and how it pumped them up to see the other team losing it. That also served me well as a coach.

I think that Payton's reaction to that call may have contributed to his team's poor play afterward and it could have only helped the state of mind of the Rams to see the opposing coach going ballistic on the other sideline.

Having said all that doesn't change the fact that that was the worst non-call to influence a game that I've ever seen. Ben Watson is well within his rights to complain about it afterward.
 
The best advice I ever received while playing sports was to look at the umpire as a scoreboard. Look at it and see what the call was but then get back to the task at hand. It served me well as a youngster.

I then taught the same thing to kids that I coached later on in my life and tried to teach it to the parents. I even took it a step further by having my players take notice when opponents reacted poorly to a decision, and how it pumped them up to see the other team losing it. That also served me well as a coach.

I think that Payton's reaction to that call may have contributed to his team's poor play afterward and it could have only helped the state of mind of the Rams to see the opposing coach going ballistic on the other sideline.

Having said all that doesn't change the fact that that was the worst non-call to influence a game that I've ever seen. Ben Watson is well within his rights to complain about it afterward.

Excellent point and philosophy. I've spent more than 20 years of my life coaching youth sports mostly but not exclusively hockey. You can't do a damn thing about what's already happened. Having played goal myself I learned very early on the only shot/play that matters is the next one, a thought reinforced by every decent coach I ever had myself or have ever seen coach others.

'Never let the bastards see you sweat'
 
Best thing the Patriots can do is say they feel bad for the Saints. Keep saying it. Make the Rams feel that karma isn't on their side.
 
Ben is a great guy however he is wrong this time.
Silence on this topic is the only solution at this time.
 
Ben is a great guy however he is wrong this time.
Silence on this topic is the only solution at this time.

Granted there's no W in any statement Fraudger might make but for us watching him shoot himself in the foot has no small amount of entertainment value.
 
It really wasn't one PI non-call--it was two. On the OT interception, the receiver was tackled before the ball arrived. This would be OK if the ball was tipped, but replays showed that it clearly wasn't. I have no idea why no one (other than Lombardi) is paying attention to this.
You’re joking, right? If anything that was OPI, which would’ve been declined. The defender had position and is allowed to make a play on the ball. The WR ran right into him.
 
Best thing the Patriots can do is say they feel bad for the Saints. Keep saying it. Make the Rams feel that karma isn't on their side.
Any Patriot asked about it Monday will say “yeah, I dunno, you’ll have to ask the league about that.”
 
I can't envision any commissioner in any other pro sport staying silent after a f###-up like that.
 
Can someone explain to me why the Brees INT is supposed to be DPI? The receiver ran into the DB. He's entitled to a piece of field and the chance to play the ball, is he not?
 
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