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Too highCannon's APY for the remaining 3 season on his deal is about $7.25M, which makes him the 7th-highest paid RT in the NFL (according to OTC).
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Too highCannon's APY for the remaining 3 season on his deal is about $7.25M, which makes him the 7th-highest paid RT in the NFL (according to OTC).
This isn't a nuanced situation.
In 2019 Cannon counts for $7.55m of cap space. You answered yes but your reasoning is flawed. My view is you don't pay someone just because you don't have anyone else. If you don't think the player is producing at a level commensurate with their cap space & salary, you either re-negotiate the deal or cut the player. In order to mitigate the risk of that player leaving, you sign FAs, draft players or you cross train players in said position.
Hes better than a JAG. Moving on.He’s a JAG. Just a guy. Meaning he’s not a stud and not a bum. I’d say that’s pretty accurate.
Dont give me the "Tom always gets the ball out quickly" nonsense.
Sunday notwithstanding the OL is last on the "problems" list.
According to Jeff Howe's film review stats, thru wk-15:
Brown .... 946 snaps - 3.5 sk .. 13 QBH .. 11 pressures .. 5 holds
Thuney ... 976 snaps - 2.0 sk ... 8 QBH ... 6 pressures .. 3 holds
Andrews . 964 snaps - 1.0 sk ... 2 QBH ... 3 pressures .. 2 holds, chop
Mason .... 810 snaps - 1.5 sk .... 4 QBH ... 2 pressures .. hold, trip, chop
Cannon .. 696 snaps - 1.0 sk .. 10 QBH .. 13 pressures .. 2 holds, trip
Waddle .. 338 snaps - 3.0 sk ... 5 QBH .. 10 pressures
Karras .... 167 snaps - 1.0 sk .................... 1 pressure
Definitely agree that Cannon hasn't been the same since he got paid...just wondering if it's injury related...either way, his play has dropped off and we need to give Tom time to throw.
Getting hung up on the $7.5M is a classic case of sunk cost fallacy. Unless you can invent a time machine and go back and prevent the Pats from signing Cannon to that contract in the first place, $7.5M is a meaningless, irrelevant number to this discussion. It means nothing, because almost 40% of it has already been paid out and is on next year's cap regardless of what choice the Pats make. Getting hung up on loss aversion is one of the surest ways there is to consistently make the wrong choice.
Thats the wrong way to look at. At the start of the deal the Patriots & Cannon structured it as such so most of his $, dead cap & cap space were at the front of the the deal. The did that because they believed that was the least likely portion of the contract in which they would receive value consistent with the $, dead cap and cap space. You can argue the dead cap placeholder is how they were able to squeeze the signing bonus in that particular year but whatever. Now they aren't and it needs adjusting. Same as Dola, Allen and other players who too haircuts to say here.
And if you think every GM in the league--including Belichick--doesn't account for cost and risk associated with replacing a player with an unproven commodity, then I've gotta strongly disagree there too. If Belichick cuts Cannon, it will by definition (because he's a more or less rational actor) have nothing to do with his $7.5M cap hit, and everything to do with the $4.75M saved by cutting him. Belichick will have implicitly determined that, even after factoring in replacement risk, Cannon's production is worth less than $4.75M worth of cap space.
I dont. Not sure where you are getting that.
Cannon signed his current deal Nov 29th, 2016.
Since then, he's missed 15 of 42 regular season + post-season games, 12 of those in 2017 with an ankle injury.
In 2018, he's missed three games:
... wk-2 with a calf strain that had him on the injury report for the first month
... wks 7 & 8 with a concussion
Dont give me the "Tom always gets the ball out quickly" nonsense.
Sunday notwithstanding the OL is last on the "problems" list.
Relying on PFF is no way to go through life.I rest my case: Joe Thuney is not a very good Guard 2nd most holds most hits from the Guard position and Third in QB pressures allowed.
He was sacked 35 times last year.Tom does get the ball out quickly though.
2007 - Brady QB - sacked 21x
2008 - Cassel QB - sacked 47x
2009 - Brady QB - sacked 18x
Brady has made many lineman look better then they are
Cannon and many others should be heavily talked about this offseason. I wouldn’t mind his return if the coaching staff seems it best - but not “just to hold down the fort and be -ok-“...
Play to win it all. If you can win it all with Cannon, fine. But if there are too many question marks everywhere, move on and make big changes to the roster.
the interior of the o-line needs an upgrade, particularly at center. thuney has not impressed either.
The inverse is also true. You don't win games with a ****ty o line. Tom does not last for 18 years with a ****ty o line.Except that's anything but nonsense. He does get the ball out quickly, he does help his OL, he does avoid the hits and the sacks that you're trying to measure to excuse OL play even though you know better than that. That ability is one of biggest reasons he's playing this game at a high level for 18 years.
The inverse is also true. You don't win games with a ****ty o line. Tom does not last for 18 years with a ****ty o line.
He was sacked 35 times last year.
Thats the wrong way to look at. At the start of the deal the Patriots & Cannon structured it as such so most of his $, dead cap & cap space were at the front of the the deal. The did that because they believed that was the least likely portion of the contract in which they would receive value consistent with the $, dead cap and cap space. You can argue the dead cap placeholder is how they were able to squeeze the signing bonus in that particular year but whatever. Now they aren't and it needs adjusting. Same as Dola, Allen and other players who too haircuts to say here.
Next year will also be the last season of Thuney's rookie contract, so I think there are a few different reasons why you'd target interior o-line early in the draft. Partly for depth, so you aren't one injury from starting Ted Karras again (as much as I've liked him in the preseason, he did not acquit himself well when Mason was injured). Partly to get out in front of replacing Thuney by a year, so you can be less averse to letting him walk if he ends up priced beyond the value of his contributions (kinda like how the Pats loaded up on DEs a year-plus before Jones would have hit FA). And I agree it would be good to get someone who could potentially play center, because while Andrews has been fine there he's certainly upgradeable. But given that Andrews was extended just this past offseason and is signed through 2020, I suspect he's here to stay for at least another year.
This isn't a nuanced situation.
In 2019 Cannon counts for $7.55m of cap space. You answered yes but your reasoning is flawed. My view is you don't pay someone just because you don't have anyone else. If you don't think the player is producing at a level commensurate with their cap space & salary, you either re-negotiate the deal or cut the player. In order to mitigate the risk of that player leaving, you sign FAs, draft players or you cross train players in said position.