Fun read: Does Brady still have it?

Kontradiction · Dec 12, 2018

Hyped said:
Agree that Moon has forgotten more than we will ever know. That being said, I marvel at how little ex-players in the media know about our team. For instance, Tedy Bruschi & Willie McGinest really aren't saying anything on the air that we don't already know.

Moon played in a different era...even Bledsoe did...when QB's really got hit and HARD. Nowadays, it could be argued that we will be seeing more QB's play into their 40's given how the game has opened up and for god's sake...Clay Matthews got a flag for a textbook QB sack...

If there's anyone I'd lend credence to in that round table, it would be House...he is backing up his comments with scientific data.

House's comments were ultimately what reassured me. Moon's comments at the beginning were getting me a bit concerned.

QuantumMechanic · Dec 12, 2018

Hyped said:
If there's anyone I'd lend credence to in that round table, it would be House...he is backing up his comments with scientific data.

But House is far from an unbiased participant in that discussion. He is or was Brady's mechanics coach, for crying out loud.

Kontradiction · Dec 12, 2018

QuantumMechanic said:
But House is far from an unbiased participant in that discussion. He is or was Brady's mechanics coach, for crying out loud.

Aye. That doesn't automatically mean that he's being biased, though. Same with Moon and his playoff record.

40yrpatsfan · Dec 12, 2018

Anyone who watched the Dolphins game and has any concerns about Brady is just nuts. He was zinging the ball all over the place. 58 minutes into the game and he lays a perfect 50 yard bomb on Gordon, which would have made it a 410 yard, 4 TD effort if not for the PI.

Yes he screwed up at the end of the half but really we should have been taking the FG at that point, too risky, any penalty or grounding or anything and the half's over. Coaching error.

Wheelman · Dec 12, 2018

QuantumMechanic said:
That was actually quite a good read. Two points that stood out to me...
From Warren Moon:

From Charles Woodson:

Edit the name. That's 3 time super bowl champion Darren Woodson of the Cowboys.

With that said, Darren Woodson gets it. That's my favourite part of the article, a part that mediots and fans just don't understand.

When Brady mentions how many yards Rodgers would throw in this system, Brady just means if he had Rodgers physical abilities. Not the rest of Rodgers.

Wheelman · Dec 12, 2018

Nikolai said:
I'm going to use this argument when the whole "Rodgers/Belichick" thing comes up.

Already been using that argument.

Wheelman · Dec 12, 2018

KontradictioN said:
Good read although it's a little concerning that Moon is starting to see some deterioration in his physical skills (arm, pocket movement, etc).

Moon is projecting from his own experience. I don't believe him.

Brewskies · Dec 12, 2018

40yrpatsfan said:
Anyone who watched the Dolphins game and has any concerns about Brady is just nuts. He was zinging the ball all over the place. 58 minutes into the game and he lays a perfect 50 yard bomb on Gordon, which would have made it a 410 yard, 4 TD effort if not for the PI.

Yes he screwed up at the end of the half but really we should have been taking the FG at that point, too risky, any penalty or grounding or anything and the half's over. Coaching error.

Error on both coaches and Brady. Brady thought he had a time out and there wasn't one. Costly.

everlong · Dec 12, 2018

KontradictioN said:
Aye. That doesn't automatically mean that he's being biased, though. Same with Moon and his playoff record.

I tossed out both what Moon and House said. House isn't going to trash his client and Moon didn't just seem salty about Brady's decline but his ascension and not just in this article. Maybe you're right, there's really no way for us to truly know, but that was my take.

I thought Arions, Theismann and Hasselbeck were unbiased. I disagree with others that Drew was salty other than with the rules where QBs today don't get hit and given the Mo Lewis hit I think I'll forgive and agree with him.

Deus Irae · Dec 12, 2018

Was Moon designated to be the turd in the punch bowl, or did he just do it naturally?

Wheelman · Dec 12, 2018

everlong said:
I tossed out both what Moon and House said. House isn't going to trash his client and Moon didn't just seem salty about Brady's decline but his ascension and not just in this article. Maybe you're right, there's really no way for us to truly know, but that was my take.

I thought Arions, Theismann and Hasselbeck were unbiased. I disagree with others that Drew was salty other than with the rules where QBs today don't get hit and given the Mo Lewis hit I think I'll forgive and agree with him.

I agree with you, Moon does come off a little salty where as I didn't see that at all with Bledsoe even when mentioning the rule changes. That's just true, especially the aaron rodgers rule.

Hyped · Dec 12, 2018

QuantumMechanic said:
But House is far from an unbiased participant in that discussion. He is or was Brady's mechanics coach, for crying out loud.

True, he might be trying to drum up more business...but he stated that he filmed brady's mechanics and broke it down frame-by-frame and said there was no decline. Dunno how you lie about that....

Hyped · Dec 12, 2018

One thing though....Woodson is a Michigan guy...so I would take his words with a grain of salt...

Wheelman · Dec 12, 2018

Hyped said:
One thing though....Woodson is a Michigan guy...so I would take his words with a grain of salt...

Darren Woodson is a Arizona State guy. 3 time Super Bowl champion with the Cowboys.

Darren Woodson - Wikipedia

@QuantumMechanic Edit your post already!

Hyped · Dec 12, 2018

Wheelman said:
Darren Woodson is a Arizona State guy.

Oh...my bad!

sb1 · Dec 12, 2018

Was Woodson the guy who back in the day basically said Brady was a system QB and was nothing special? Maybe I’m thinking of Rod Woodson...

Gumby · Dec 12, 2018

sb1 said:
Still feels like there’s a tiny bit of salt from Drew when he’s asked about Tom...or maybe it’s just me reading into it

Bledsoe: He's better now than he was five years ago.

Not sure where the "salt" is you were reading. Here he defended TB against the posited decline.

Palm Beach Pats Fan · Dec 12, 2018

We need to wait for Rob Parker's perspective.

Sincerely,
the GDT crew.

DarrylS · Dec 13, 2018

Great way to start the day after Sundays loss...

chris_in_sunnyvale · Dec 13, 2018

KontradictioN said:
Good read although it's a little concerning that Moon is starting to see some deterioration in his physical skills (arm, pocket movement, etc).

Even if we take Moon's observation at face value, Brady is 41. Best 41yr old QB in NFL history at that, considering how every other QB's skills deteriorated late in their careers. We're just used to comparing Brady against the ridiculously high standard the guy himself has set.

Regards,
Chris

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