Semi-OT: Last night, was Jamie Collins even on the field?

Soliel · Sep 21, 2018

SammyBlueCat said:
Might be an odd picture angle but he looks like he gained weight.

He’s been sleeping in the sun too much

Angelpats · Sep 21, 2018

edkk323 said:
New England Patriots figured out a strategy almost two decades ago and implemented it to the letter. It was "never ever overpay your own FA". So called dynasties like Seahawks, Falcons and Broncos have come and gone but we are still here year in and year out. The only teams which could remotely match our success were the Colts and the Steelers. The Colts was out of the conversation after Forehead got injured and the Steelers are in free fall. I am glad that we did not pay Jamie Collins or Chandler Jones or Nate Solder or Butler or Lewis.

I guess the strategy was never overpay your own FA and somehow make TB to sign under market value contracts.

They maybe should not have followed that strategy with Hightower too. I hope these first two games not indicative of how he’ll be the rest of the season.

edkk323 · Sep 21, 2018

Hyped said:
Yeah, I have similar feelings about the Parcells/Carroll era. Had we been successful then...no Brady/Belichick.

Nonetheless, I like to obsess over how close we have been in those "down years".

I would recommend a book called The Untethered Soul. It helped me so much. It helped me to stop be a miserable fk. It helped me to enjoy the momment. You won't regret it.

edkk323 · Sep 21, 2018

Angelpats said:
They maybe should not have followed that strategy with Hightower too. I hope these first two games not indicative of how he’ll be the rest of the season.

High was the heart of our defense. He should bounce back

BTTA · Sep 21, 2018

Tunescribe said:
Yeah, he was out there but looked like he was sleepwalking. I saw No. 51 with "Collins SR" on the back of his jersey and had a hard time figuring that, indeed, was Jamie Collins because he wasn't playing like what we remember.

I can provide expert testimony that adding "senior" to your identity never leads to an improvement in any physical activity.

Deus Irae · Sep 21, 2018

Angelpats said:
They maybe should not have followed that strategy with Hightower too. I hope these first two games not indicative of how he’ll be the rest of the season.

Hightower may be going down the Mayo path, though it's too soon to know for certain. He's definitely not been going down the Collins path, though.

Hyped · Sep 21, 2018

edkk323 said:
I would recommend a book called The Untethered Soul. It helped me so much. It helped me to stop be a miserable fk. It helped me to enjoy the momment. You won't regret it.

Not a miserable person. I surprisingly got over SB 52 within 3-4 days. Worst loss for me was the 06' AFC Title game. I had a hard time waking up the next day and that day was a long one.

Ever since then, haven't been that miserable about sports in general. I am enjoying this ride..believe me, but at the same time utterly fascinated with how a game of football essentially boils down to a play or two...

Thanks for the book rec though.

Ice_Ice_Brady · Sep 21, 2018

He didn’t even pick off a pass from Darnold. He should be released immediately.

RayClay · Sep 21, 2018

RelocatedPatFan said:
So was Chung, but I don't think Collins will have the same rebound chance (so in essence I agree he won't be back)

Not the same reason. Chung always worked hard when healthy.

maineman209 · Sep 21, 2018

Collins' statistical performance drop off also coincided with Gregg Williams switching the Browns' defense last year from a 3-4 to his "attacking" version of a 4-3.

farn · Sep 21, 2018

After the successful run to the 2014 championship, I thought that NE was entering a new era of young, successful Defense. HT, Butler, Collins...

Again, BB and gang were right abiut Collins.

Wheelman · Sep 21, 2018

Yeah I saw him on the field. Collins SR on the back of his jersey. #51

RobertWeathers · Sep 21, 2018

Hyped said:
Not a miserable person. I surprisingly got over SB 52 within 3-4 days. Worst loss for me was the 06' AFC Title game. I had a hard time waking up the next day and that day was a long one.

Ever since then, haven't been that miserable about sports in general. I am enjoying this ride..believe me, but at the same time utterly fascinated with how a game of football essentially boils down to a play or two...

Thanks for the book rec though.

05 loss vs DEN was tough for me.

I had never been a fan of a team who was a dynasty before. I didn't know what to do with myself.

Triumph · Sep 21, 2018

Jamie was freelancing. Its what he does best.

His signing was Just another mistake by Sashi Brown ex Browns GM.

Silver Blue&Red · Sep 21, 2018

Deus Irae said:
It's not about him getting paid and checking out, it's just who he is as a player. He's always been weak at the point of attack, and overrated as a cover LB. People here went nuts over him because he would make some flashy plays, and because he was good at running people down when they were moving away from him.

It all seemed to start when he jumped over the D line and blocked that Punt/PAT, don't remember which.

I bit.

Ivan · Sep 22, 2018

chasa said:
chung walked as a FA.
Collins was shipped out for a mid round pick.

And certain poster’s shrieked, cried, and beat their little fisties and feeties against the floors of their mommies basement, screaming that Traitor Bill had cost them any chance at the Super Bowl*

* which they went on to win, went to 3-4, and won two. Goddamn you Bill, how come you won’t listen to the chicken little’s?

Soliel · Sep 22, 2018

robertweathers said:
05 loss vs DEN was tough for me.

I had never been a fan of a team who was a dynasty before. I didn't know what to do with myself.

The 2015 loss to Denver made me crazy too

Bradyking12 · Sep 22, 2018

Soliel said:
The 2015 loss to Denver made me crazy too

The injuries in 2015 made me crazy, closest shot at an undefeated season since 2007, once Edelman and Lewis went down I know it was over.

Triumph · Sep 22, 2018

robertweathers said:
05 loss vs DEN was tough for me.

I had never been a fan of a team who was a dynasty before. I didn't know what to do with myself.

I was there.

The same season that Bruschi came back from his stroke. The season that Bettis won his Super Bowl. Charlie Weis said that Bettis told him "that he was quitting the game after the AFFC loss" the season before. Weis told him "that maybe you should come back for one last year."

Triumph · Sep 22, 2018

SammyBlueCat said:
Might be an odd picture angle but he looks like he gained weight.

Expected when you strive to avoid physical activity.

Could be his wallet and deep pockets too.

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