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The Josh Gordon Thread: Pats Officially Acquire Gordon for Fifth-Round Pick


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HOLY CRAP!! Fingers definitely crossed, but wow.
 
I knew someone would ***** about a conditional 5th for a potential gramebreaking WR.

You need more sunshine in your life....or troll somewhere else.
i dont like the trade. thats not trolling you idiot. hes a potentional DUI and a mental case. he cant even show up to meetings on time.
 
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Yep. I remember that game like it was yesterday. Definitely bittersweet.

 
Yeah, "weed is a gateway drug" is a bad reason to be alarmed, because that's just not true.

The fact that he's openly acknowledged his addiction to xanax and codeine, OTOH... yeah, that's cause for alarm. It's not like this is idle speculation, he outright said in his GQ interview that he had an opiate addiction.

I agree with this. I've also come to believe that people can overcome things.
 
We hire Randy Moss to be his chaperone.

Pinch me, none of this is real.
 
I knew someone would ***** about a conditional 5th for a potential gramebreaking WR.

You need more sunshine in your life....or troll somewhere else.

Seriously, anyone who feels the need to complain about a 5th round or later pick for an NFL starter (let alone a potential generational talent) needs to look up the past 5 or so drafts and count the number of NFL starters who get drafted in the 5th-7th rounds. Hint, it's so tiny it's not even worth remarking upon. There really is a huge drop-off from the 4th to the 5th.
 
My fear is that we retool the offense with him as a major piece and then in the eve of a playoff game he gots off the reservation.
We would be worse off than never having him if that were the case.

That is a define possibility...but it is unlikely that he would "go off the reservation" right before a play-off game. It is more likely he fails a drug test and is suspended a few days before a play-off game.
 
Seriously, anyone who feels the need to complain about a 5th round or later pick for an NFL starter (let alone a potential generational talent) needs to look up the past 5 or so drafts and count the number of NFL starters who get drafted in the 5th-7th rounds. Hint, it's so tiny it's not even worth remarking upon. There really is a huge drop-off from the 4th to the 5th.

As someone pointed out on Twitter, the Pats have traded their 5th every year since 2011......the latest being for Patterson in the spring.
 
Seriously, anyone who feels the need to complain about a 5th round or later pick for an NFL starter (let alone a potential generational talent) needs to look up the past 5 or so drafts and count the number of NFL starters who get drafted in the 5th-7th rounds. Hint, it's so tiny it's not even worth remarking upon. There really is a huge drop-off from the 4th to the 5th.

No question it's 50/50 Josh crashes and burns or can't learn the offense but for God's Sake.........a conditional 5th?????
 
Dude Gordon is like a freak of nature. If BB can get his head on right... I'll say it again... fml.
You've got issues with your own team to mull over. By the way, how 'bout that Ryan Fitzpatrick lighting it up for Tampa Bay! Too bad he's not with your Jete, they'd be 2-0 right now.
 
Well, for one thing, he had separation against the Steelers last week. He beats his guy at the line and then has a step and a half on him racing towards the end zone. Taylor just underthrows him and forces him to work back and make a pretty amazing leaping catch while running away from the ball. I don't know, if you pointed me at that play alone, I'd tell you that's a great receiver.



He also had 18 receptions for 18.6 yards per reception in 5 games last season catching passes from DeShone Kizer and popped off in the final week for 115 yards against the Steelers.

This was New Years Eve last year.



I don't see where he's washed up.


Never said he was washed up. I am simply curious how far removed he is from his 2013 form. As far as the TD in week one... i don't know what you're talking about. He gets the outside sure, but he never got even a half step of separation up the field. Let alone a step and a half. He MAY have had separation on other plays, but i didn't get to watch the game. I would be curious if we could find a video showing all his routes for that game and how he did.

I do think we can question how much straight line speed is there at this point. He had a good game last season vs Pitt but on the one really big play he makes when he gets behind people we can't really tell if he out ran his guy or if it was a break down in coverage. Also while you criticize Kizer it is worth noting Tom Brady couldn't have thrown that one big pass any better than Kizer did. Even bad QBs can make a few amazing passes or have a few amazing games.

in 2017 he got 18 catches for 335 yards but it took 42 targets to do it. Is that on the QB or was he not getting open a lot? I have no idea honestly.

I am not saying he can't potentially be good. I am certainly not saying he is washed up. I'm saying I don't know how good he will be. He almost certainly won't be prime Josh Gordon. I think he will give the Patriots something. I just don't know what yet and i'm not going to get my hopes up.

To put it purely as a statistical thing how many yards can we expect out of him? 300? 500? 800? 1200? I don't have any idea. I hope a lot but I just don't know how much is there at this point.
 
Jones - 2nd
Ras I Downling - 2nd
Richards - 2nd

Gordon + 7th - 5th

And ppl complain about this move WTF
Heehee. To be fair, plenty complained about some (all) of those as well......
 
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