The Josh Gordon Thread: Pats Officially Acquire Gordon for Fifth-Round Pick

Big Bucks said:

The Cleveland QBs are again!? How can anyone judge stats in a bad light because of them.

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Because Jason Campbell, Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer were the Cleveland QBs in 2013.

That's how.

Odds revealed for Josh Gordon's next team

Looks like we are the odds on favorite to land Gordon.. I don't really like even tho the risk is small. If BB has taught us one ting its that culture wins in this league.

Very happy to join this forum!

Setting aside the visions of what Brady could do with a WR like this, we need to ask: What would Bill do?

Bill Belichick’s Quote ‘Dependability Is More Important Than Ability’ Explains Some of Patriots’ Personnel Decisions

Deus Irae said:

The Patriots have gambled on the likes of Dillon, Moss, Hernandez, Haynesworth, Johnson, et al., but a weed smoker is apparently a bridge too far for some people.

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That’s like saying I bought a lotto ticket once but betting my house on a horse race is a bridge too far.
Gordon’s issues are volumes larger than being a “weed smoker”.

Mack Herron said:

Setting aside the visions of what Brady could do with a WR like this, we need to ask: What would Bill do?

Bill Belichick’s Quote ‘Dependability Is More Important Than Ability’ Explains Some of Patriots’ Personnel Decisions

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Michael Floyd. Was signed 6 days after his DUI. Had 24 hour support from Harmon, Slater et al. But it was essentially 1 incident.

Personally, with Gordon it's drugs and alcohol, the guy has deep seated issues and high anxiety when playing. Don't see that BB will take the risk no matter how much support he could blanket him with the team.

Clonamery said:

Michael Floyd. Was signed 6 days after his DUI. Had 24 hour support from Harmon, Slater et al. But it was essentially 1 incident.

Personally, with Gordon it's drugs and alcohol, the guy has deep seated issues and high anxiety when playing. Don't see that BB will take the risk no matter how much support he could blanket him with the team.

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It’s not just that he has drug issues and alcohol issues. It’s that even when facing a lifetime suspension he didn’t stop. Then after getting a reprieve from the lifetime suspension he hasn’t cared about football.
He stayed away for almost all of camp deciding to stay home because he was facing a custody battle. He was required to stay home, there was no advantage on staying home he just was in a sad mood.
Then he shows up and 3 weeks the one team in the nfl that could afford to waste their time in a risky long shot, the one that bent over backwards for him decides he just isn’t worth the trouble.

You have 2 choices if you bring the guy in. One, you brought him in for talent so you integrate him into your offense and his talent dictates he is a big part of it. 5 weeks later he flakes and you have wasted all that time and now you have to reinvent your offense on the fly.
Two, you are afraid of counting on him so you limit using him and keep him on the bench, so his talent is wasted and you have a head case who isn’t helping.

Also, since he can’t back he has not been close up the player people remember and think he still is. He doesn’t produce when he plays. Barely playing football for 4 years absolutely affects your ability to play. Not caring much about football does too.

Pass.

TommyD4207 said:

18 rec, 335 yds and 1 TD in 5 games. 42 targets. That's 3.5ish catches a game.

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Ya 3.5 catches would be slot when you go see is in catchable ball rate

Patjew said:

Poor guy. Some people just can’t get out of their own way.

But screw Cleveland. I hate them and I don’t know why.

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It’s an Ohio team. That’s all

I know.

Gordon to the Broncos. You cant get in trouble with weed in Colorado.

Anyone focusing & harping on "weed" is missing the point w Gordon. It's a lot deeper/more than smoking pot.

Adam Schefter is pretty confident that Gordon will get traded by tomorrow. Apparently teams are already calling the Browns up and making offers.

Maybe Chucky gets him in silver and black. Then flips Amari Cooper our way. That'd be nice.

FoxboroFlyer said:

Maybe Chucky gets him in silver and black. Then flips Amari Cooper our way. That'd be nice.

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Cooper is trash. Honestly I’d rather just bring Britt back who already has some understanding of the playbook.

Triumph said:

I know.

Gordon to the Broncos. You cant get in trouble with weed in Colorado.

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Oh yes you can if you play in the NFL. CBA supercedes law and while you won't get arrested, you can be disciplined or in Gordon's case, get the lifetime ban....
Won't get in legal trouble but can throw away his well paid job...

My $ is on Dallas....

There are guys who have turned their lives around, Cris Carter comes to mind ( once he found a fall guy). When he was cut by Buddy Ryan with the memorable quote, " all he does is catch touchdowns" people couldn't understand why but it was because they were tired of his drug issues ( alcohol, pot, cocaine and 3 failed drug tests) and was afraid of the effect on the rest of the locker room...
He turned around his life and while he has made some stupid comments since then, there have no drug issues since then...
Cris Carter: From Addiction to Superstardom in the NFL

0% surprise at this for me. I'm sure Bill hates Gordon and I was saying yesterday Matthews and Britt are NEs best available chances for impact WRs this year.

Clonamery said:

Michael Floyd. Was signed 6 days after his DUI. Had 24 hour support from Harmon, Slater et al. But it was essentially 1 incident.

Personally, with Gordon it's drugs and alcohol, the guy has deep seated issues and high anxiety when playing. Don't see that BB will take the risk no matter how much support he could blanket him with the team.

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Floyd was an alcoholic with longterm team known issues going back since he joined as a rookie. They were thinking of cutting even before his DUI which is what tipped them over the edge. I don't see any difference if its drink, or drink and weed.

So you just give up on people.. sorry I don't which is why I was saying the same stuff in the Michael Floyd thread last year.

Again.. what Floyd did is 100x worse than anything Gordon has done.. whilst the reasons for drinking and taking drugs are probably lets face it for similar reasons.

Marqui said:

0% surprise at this for me. I'm sure Bill hates Gordon and I was saying yesterday Matthews and Britt are NEs best available chances for impact WRs this year.

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You are sure Bill hates Josh Gordon? Why?

robertweathers said:

You are sure Bill hates Josh Gordon? Why?

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Late to practice rumors.