Sony Michel: Getting Ready

One-If-By-Sea said:

3 carries for 9 yards and 1 fumble last week. We really think we need that?

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With that type of performance, Gilly could become available soon anyway.

Tuck said:

I can only assume Michel’s talent was graded so high that it was worth the draft capital even if they only get one contract out of him.

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That's pretty much what we heard from Lombardi and Mayock right before the draft. That his knee issues would most likely affect the second contract and not his immediate situation. And since he is a RB the second contract is less likely proposition anyway.

In short, Michels pick was always about how he can help the team in the immediate future. And since it is absurd to assume that the Pats drafted him in spite of their own doctors warning him any reasonable person can only assume that the professionals whose job it is to diagnose people gave the green light.

luuked said:

That's pretty much what we heard from Lombardi and Mayock right before the draft. That his knee issues would most likely affect the second contract and not his immediate situation. And since he is a RB the second contract is less likely proposition anyway.

In short, Michels pick was always about how he can help the team in the immediate future. And since it is absurd to assume that the Pats drafted him in spite of their own doctors warning him any reasonable person can only assume that the professionals whose job it is to diagnose people gave the green light.

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And "professionals," of course never greenlight nonsense. Your childlike faith in these experts is as adorably naive as your wide-eyed certainty that the the "absurd" never transpires.

Thelonious said:

And "professionals," of course never greenlight nonsense. Your childlike faith in these experts is as adorably naive as your wide-eyed certainty that the the "absurd" never transpires.

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Fortunately faith has nothing to do with medical specialists giving opinions. It is based on historical knowledge and the projection -- subject to being normally distributed -- is pretty accurate. Therefore of course you are to trust the experts because they actually have enough insight to give you reasonable perspective.

Trusting anyone else -- including "your gut" -- is borderline ******ed. As are your attempts to sound so pretentious.

luuked said:

That's pretty much what we heard from Lombardi and Mayock right before the draft. That his knee issues would most likely affect the second contract and not his immediate situation. And since he is a RB the second contract is less likely proposition anyway.

In short, Michels pick was always about how he can help the team in the immediate future. And since it is absurd to assume that the Pats drafted him in spite of their own doctors warning him any reasonable person can only assume that the professionals whose job it is to diagnose people gave the green light.

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Agree. The Pats' medical staff has always been a beacon of reliability.

KontradictioN said:

Agree. The Pats' medical staff has always been a beacon of reliability.

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Don't see too many times they were wrong in their projections of draftable players. Even with Easley their green light turned out to be correct. Unfortunately whoever was grading his character was totally off. If it was not for him being a ****head he'd still be here and playing.

Either way it all boils down to probability and risk. As is almost everything in the draft process.

luuked said:

Fortunately faith has nothing to do with medical specialists giving opinions. It is based on historical knowledge and the projection -- subject to being normally distributed -- is pretty accurate. Therefore of course you are to trust the experts because they actually have enough insight to give you reasonable perspective.

Trusting anyone else -- including "your gut" -- is borderline ******ed. As are your attempts to sound so pretentious.

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Heh. But the inductive leap, the stock in trade of you empirical types, smacks unavoidably and importantly of "faith." Within every empiricist, there lurks a wild-eyed rationalist, forever leaping at conclusions he thinks he sees in his cherished hoard of facts.

As for pretense, well, we all do that, don't we? The poses may vary, but the posing endures. It makes life so much more interesting, and no pose is more phony or tedious than the pose of simple honesty and sober, considered thought.

luuked said:

Don't see too many times they were wrong in their projections of draftable players. Even with Easley their green light turned out to be correct. Unfortunately whoever was grading his character was totally off. If it was not for him being a ****head he'd still be here and playing.

Either way it all boils down to probability and risk. As is almost everything in the draft process.

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Easley's knees are shot and have been a problem. If that weren't the case, he'd have gotten more playing time and made a bigger impact on the Rams (a team that doesn't seem to have issue with attitudes). But because his knees were shot, it eliminated his explosive first step off the snap which was the primary reason for his success at Florida. You also have the Gronkowskis and their history of being critical of the Patriots' medical staff with regard to his forearm injury in 2012 and going into 2013. You have the prior NFLPA grievance alleging that their medical staff put team needs ahead of health. You have the medical staff giving the team the go-ahead on Malcolm Mitchell even in spite of the knee issues that he came into the league with. There is plenty of evidence there that they miss sometimes. You can choose to put your faith in them if you'd like (and for the record, I think the Michel pick will pan out), but that's all it is. Faith. Or hope. Whatever you want to call it. But Easley and Mitchell are yelling "hi."

All I know that Michel has offered more on the field than Thelonious has offered on this board, to date.

I really hope Sony Michel is the real deal Pats haven't had a real young Elite RB since Curtis Martin many moons ago.

reamer said:

All I know that Michel has offered more on the field than Thelonious has offered on this board, to date.

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Oh my. I guess that puts me at a negative quantity, doesn't it, Michel having contributed nothing? Imagine my desolation.

Thelonious said:

Oh my. I guess that puts me at a negative quantity, doesn't it, Michel having contributed nothing? Imagine my desolation.

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Its the way you said it. Saying hes contributed absolutely nothing when there has only been one freaking game bleeds of bias towards the pick and the player.

So yes, you are negative but keep *****ing about if it makes you feel better.

reamer said:

All I know that Michel has offered more on the field than Thelonious has offered on this board, to date.

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Are you saying that he need to change his name to Jabronious?

robertweathers said:

Its the way you said it. Saying hes contributed absolutely nothing when there has only been one freaking game bleeds of bias towards the pick and the player.

So yes, you are negative but keep *****ing about if it makes you feel better.

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I am content to move on. Bonhomie is not my forte, but I will try to affect the manner of one for whom it is.

KontradictioN said:

Are you saying that he need to change his name to Jabronious?

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Hark, the little chickadees are gathering in the trees!

KontradictioN said:

Are you saying that he need to change his name to Jabronious?

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I can think of a few other names to call him...

TommyBrady12 said:

I can think of a few other names to call him...

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Oh my. This is sounding very much like the girls' table in a middle school cafeteria.

PatsFan2 said:

I really hope Sony Michel is the real deal Pats haven't had a real young Elite RB since Curtis Martin many moons ago.

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Corey Dillon 2004.

Ras-IR Dowling said:

Corey Dillon 2004.

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No disrespect to Clock Killing Dillon I was thinking along the lines of someone home bred.

Thelonious said:

Hark, the little chickadees are gathering in the trees!

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Disagree. "Hark!" The herald angel sings.