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It's time, ladies and gents. For the biggest sporting event of Earth.

No, not the Super Bowl

It's not the Finals, either

What? World Series? Get out here

WORLD CUP BABY. No matter how delusioned I am with my country, It's impossible not to get excited as a Brazilian. I know there are plenty of other fans around here, even though USA is absent (they lost to Panama. Not gonna mock though. It was to Panama though), let's get this thread startin'.

Also, I invite all my non-americans friends here to use Football when talking about this sport. After all, it is the original football :rolleyes:
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL BRASIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Brazil tied with Costa Rica....
 
Brazil with 2 goals in stoppage time to beat Costa Rica.
 
Finally a win. Over 65% of ball possesion, Costa Rica without a single shot on goal, alwaws with 10 behind the ball and playing tha infamous latin-american playstile, the "CATINGA".

Thoday's second half was good. Douglas Costa needs to be a starter, and I'd also put Firmino over Jesus.
 
Finally a win. Over 65% of ball possesion, Costa Rica without a single shot on goal, alwaws with 10 behind the ball and playing tha infamous latin-american playstile, the "CATINGA".

Thoday's second half was good. Douglas Costa needs to be a starter, and I'd also put Firmino over Jesus.

I am happy that we won but boy they need to capitalize when they have those chances. Neymar had a clear one.
 
Brazil with 2 goals in stoppage time to beat Costa Rica.

How many games does that make that have been decided during stoppage time during this Cup?
 
Iceland plays such a boring style of soccer. Not much possession. Argentina might still be in this.
 
Nigeria vs Argentina for a spot in the round of 16 against France most likely. All Nigeria needs is a draw at worse. Argentina needs to win outright.
 
Serbia v. Switzerland was an excellent match. Serbia was worn down by the end and will have an unrealistic chance of staying with Brazil to move on. All Shaquiri in the second half.
 
Serbia v. Switzerland was an excellent match. Serbia was worn down by the end and will have an unrealistic chance of staying with Brazil to move on. All Shaquiri in the second half.

Well it’s either win or go home for Serbia. All the Swiss need is a draw against Costa Rica who are eliminated.
 
Nigeria vs Argentina for a spot in the round of 16 against France most likely. All Nigeria needs is a draw at worse. Argentina needs to win outright.

And a Croatia win. If Argentina wins 1-0 and Iceland wins 1-0. Iceland advances
 
And a Croatia win. If Argentina wins 1-0 and Iceland wins 1-0. Iceland advances

Croatia has nothing to play for. They likely might have their B team. They already won the group I believe. Nigeria played aergentina tough in the 2014 World Cup.
 
Wow! I knew Nigeria could do it! They bounced right back. All they need is a draw with Argentina. And lately they've been playing Argentina pretty closely. And Argentina ain't looking so hot this tournament. Both Nigeria & Argentina have something to play for. It'll be an all out match. Not a given for either of them.
 
The very good youth development programs with the best resources and coaches are very expensive and price out poorer young players with potential, who also tend to be less white. And on top of that, the coaches tend to be much whiter than would be representative of US soccer playing youth. Think about it in terms of "travel teams" and the like and how expensive it is to actually travel for youth sports, but if you have kids who played hockey or soccer or gymnastics or even swam, you know how important it is to their development to play on a travel team as a kid.

There's actually a similar problem with quarterbacks in football. You pay tons of money and you can get private coaching and high level camps for your kid, and that tends to benefit a wealthier, whiter potential quarterback. Christian Hackenburg is the exemplar here, a kid whose dad paid tens of thousands of dollars to get him private coaching and all this other stuff, enough to put him high above other kids in high school... but eventually the lack of talent catches up. Not soon enough for the Jets, but we can laugh at them.

That's not to say every USMNT player is a Hackenburg, but the youth development system in the US really favors a particular and particularly expensive path of development and makes it much harder for really good but poorer kids to shine, which really hurts poorer second-generation Hispanic kids who are basically born with a soccer ball at their feet. Other countries literally pay the most promising kids to play in their youth systems, almost like juniors in hockey, which is how you get so many working class immigrant kids on the English team for example. But the US also rules that out because paying 16 year olds (or their families) would make them professionals and kill their NCAA eligibility, which is still an important consideration in soccer; though the best American players never play in college, it's not something you can assume unless you're a Pulisic, and a surprising number of USMNT players did play at least a year or two in college.

As for Gonzalez, FIFA allows you to play for any country you have "a clear connection with" which often means parentage (see Tunisia's team being all French-born). Gonzalez isn't even a Mexican citizen. Once you pick a country and play for them at the adult level, you're stuck with them though. But you'll see things like Gonzalez where he played for the US U-17 and U-20 teams and then switched to Mexico despite heavy pleading from the USMNT, but it's not all that common.

Great explanation. Thanks.
 
Mexico playing pretty strong without overexerting themselves. I look forward to the 2nd half, they will likely try to tack onto the lead and make it impossible for Korea to come back. If they can't, Korea might be able to claw their way back. Its now or never. Mexico can qualify here.
 
THERE it is! Mexico's just punched their tickets for the bracket
 
How’s the U.S. doing?
 
Great game by Mexico!

Osorio is one of the few coaches, if not THE only at high level, that adapts his strategy and changes players to face certain adversaries. To see it working is really interesting, because I've always wondered how this strategy would work, since chemistry is so important in Football.

And now, they are probably locked in as 1st place, so they will likely face Switzerland or Serbia (2nd place in group E, IIRC). That would be an interesting match, since Mexico is historically bad against defensive teams. If Osorio's Team can pull it off, Mexico may start to dream big.

Also, the most likely scenario ist that Brazil x Germany (I do not believe they'll fail to classify for a second) will happen in the 16-teams stage of the Knockout round.
 


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