RIP Kenyatta Jones

Per profootballtalk. Member of the 2001 Super Bowl team and 11 game starter in 2002.

Former NFL player Kenyatta Jones dies at 39

RIP .... cardiac arrest at 39.

Wasn't he the player who poured boiling water on his buddy?

If your goal is to live a long life, pro football is to be avoided...

farn said:

If your goal is to live a long life, pro football is to be avoided...

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In fact, a 2012 study of retired NFL players conducted by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health of 3439 players found that they had a much lower death rate than a comparable group in the general population.

Study shows NFL players live longer
Breaking Down the Study on NFL Life Expectancy
https://www.ajconline.org/article/S0002-9149(11)03387-X/fulltext
It's interesting, however, that heart attack caused death rates were lower than average, but were a function of playing position, with linemen being particularly at risk, and that deaths due to neurological issues were also lower than the general population.

robertweathers said:

Wasn't he the player who poured boiling water on his buddy?

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On his cousin, according to Wikipedia.

wynpalmer said:

In fact, a 2012 study of retired NFL players conducted by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health of 3439 players found that they had a much lower death rate than a comparable group in the general population.

Study shows NFL players live longer
Breaking Down the Study on NFL Life Expectancy
https://www.ajconline.org/article/S0002-9149(11)03387-X/fulltext
It's interesting, however, that heart attack caused death rates were lower than average, but were a function of playing position, with linemen being particularly at risk, and that deaths due to neurological issues were also lower than the general population.

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Give me a study that compares apples to apples, and I'll be informed. In this case, compare NFL players to a group of men who have had a lifetime of excellent health care, nutrition, early-in-life exercise habits, and been high income since their early 20's, and I'll listen up.

From Wiki:

After starting 11 games for the Patriots in 2002, Jones was placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list at the beginning of the 2003 season. While on the PUP list, Jones was arrested on October 21, 2003 and charged with allegedly throwing hot tea on his cousin, Mark Paul.[1] He was released by the Patriots five days later.[2] While playing for the Tampa Bay Storm of the Arena Football League in March 2008, Jones was arrested outside a Tampa, Florida nightclub after attempting to urinate on the dance floor and then shoving the off-duty police officer who threw Jones out of the establishment. Jones was arrested for battery on a law enforcement officer and resisting arrest.[3]

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Sadly, I don't think this guy was destined to live a long life. May the good Lord have mercy on his immortal soul, rest him and keep him.

betterthanthealternative said:

Give me a study that compares apples to apples, and I'll be informed. In this case, compare NFL players to a group of men who have had a lifetime of excellent health care, nutrition, early-in-life exercise habits, and been high income since their early 20's, and I'll listen up.

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That seems like an odd request. The reason that many of those "conditions" are true in this case is because of the participants being involved in playing football from an early age, so why extract all of the supposed positives from the analysis while retaining all of the supposed negatives. It's not as if there is a particular reason to control for these items when the concern is how football players compare to the general population.

Heart goes out to his family, no mother should bury her child. Damn, 39...

farn said:

If your goal is to live a long life, pro football is to be avoided...

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As is being 300+ pounds

May he find peace, now..

robertweathers said:

Wasn't he the player who poured boiling water on his buddy?

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I thought he was the guy playing catch with a knife in some parking lot and got stabbed in the chest with it. Maybe both?

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I thought he was the guy playing catch with a knife in some parking lot and got stabbed in the chest with it. Maybe both?

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Yikes!

I had a buddy who once caught a Bowie knife in mid-air.

He only needed 17 stitches...

Much too young. May God grant him peace.

wynpalmer said:

That seems like an odd request. The reason that many of those "conditions" are true in this case is because of the participants being involved in playing football from an early age, so why extract all of the supposed positives from the analysis while retaining all of the supposed negatives. It's not as if there is a particular reason to control for these items when the concern is how football players compare to the general population.

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My point is that I don't care how they compare to the general population because it tells me nothing useful about how football affects their long term health. And, picking "general population" as the comparative group is a lazy selection from a scientific standpoint.

Terrible. It's always sad when someone dies, especially a young dude.

betterthanthealternative said:

My point is that I don't care how they compare to the general population because it tells me nothing useful about how football affects their long term health. And, picking "general population" as the comparative group is a lazy selection from a scientific standpoint.

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Really? It tells you a great deal about their long term health and I'm puzzled as to why you think otherwise. It's hardly lazy. On one side we have those that have played football professionally- with all of the associated parameters- and on the other side everyone else.
It tells you the life expectancy of those that play football relative to the entire population. Why doesn't that precisely conform to the original question/statement?
This is a standard epidemiological type study with a standard, normalized, control group- i.e. the population at large. If not the population at large, who else?
If what you're interested in is, say, how people with three or more concussions fare, then that is the parameter that is extracted in the data dredge. Or, as was also done in this study, if you are interested in the incidence of death due to myocardial issues amongst linemen then that can be extracted separately relative to any select population group that seems appropriate.
Again, this is standard procedure in these kinds of studies.

39 is too young to die, wonder if "being the life of the party" was a mitigating factor???