BGC 2018 NFL DRAFT/PATRIOT-TYPE THREAD

BaconGrundleCandy said:

Age Matters. Its not everything but if your not using it then you should.

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• 95+: HOF talent
• 90-94.99: Future All Pro
• 80-89.99: Future Pro Bowler
• 70-79.99: Day one starter
• 60-69.99: Potential year one starter/year two potential starter
• 55-59.99: Potential to make a roster
• 54.99 lower: Training Camp/depth player

1. Quenton Nelson 85.85; G, Notre Dame
2. Roquan Smith 84.88; LB, Gerogia
3. Denzel Ward 84.69; CB, Ohio State
4. Derwin James 80.68; S, Florida State
5. Harold Landry 79.50; EDGE, Boston College
6. Isaiah Wynn 79.38; OL, Georgia
7. Sam Darnold 78.88; QB, USC
8. Lamar Jackson 78.70; QB, Louisville
9. Minkah Fitzpatrick 78.63; DB, Alabama
10. Justin Reid 78.50; S, Stanford
11. Derrius Guice 78.38; RB, LSU
12. James Daniels 78.13; C, Iowa
13. Saquon Barkley 77.53; RB, Penn State
14. Frank Ragnow 77.25; OL, Arkansas
15. James Washington 77.06; WR, Oklahoma State
16. Bradley Chubb 76.80; EDGE, NC State
17. Jaire Alexander 76.73; CB, Louisville
18. Will Hernandez 76.50; G, UTEP
19. Antonio Callaway 75.88; WR, Florida
20. Josh Jackson 75.75; CB, Iowa
21. Tremaine Edmunds 75.69; LB, Virginia Tech
22. Baker Mayfield 75.50; QB, Oklahoma
23. Leighton Vander Esch 75.38; LB, Boise State
24. Maurice Hurst 75.25; DT, Michigan
25. Mike Hughes 74.75; CB, UCF
26. Jerome Baker 74.25; LB, Ohio State
27. DJ Moore 74.03; WR, Maryland
28. Josh Rosen 73.88; QB, UCLA
29. Nick Chubb 73.75; RB, Georgia
30. Anthony Miller 73.75; WR, Memphis
31. Lorenzo Carter 73.63; LB, Georgia
32. Mike McGlinchey 73.38; OT, Notre Dame
33. Vita Vea 73.25; DT, Washington
34. Marcus Davenport 73.13; EDGE, UTSA
35. Billy Price 73.00; OL, Ohio State
36. Isaiah Oliver 73.00; CB, Colorado
37. Kyzir White 72.63; S, West Virginia
38. Kemeko Turay 72.50; EDGE, Rutgers
39. Braden Smith 72.00; G, Auburn
40. Taven Bryan 72.00; DT, Florida
41. Da’Ron Payne 71.93; DT, Alabama
42. Donte Jackson 71.65; DB, LSU
43. Rashaad Penny 71.56; RB, San Diego State
44. Malik Jefferson 71.50; LB, Texas
45. Josh Sweat 71.25; EDGE, Florida State
46. Dallas Goedert 71.13; TE, South Dakota State
47. Ronald Jones III 70.53; RB, USC
48. DeShon Elliott 70.50; S, Texas
49. Chad Thomas 70.29; EDGE, Miami
50. Austin Corbett 70.19; OL, Nevada

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primetime said:

You'd have to control for draft position, though. It's not surprising 21 year olds have better careers than 23 or 24 year olds. 20-21 year olds are often third year juniors, which means they were probably big recruits as they weren't redshirted and then they made the leap after their third year of eligibility. Or they made the leap after their second year after redshirting. It's a self-selecting group. The ones at the higher end of the age spectrum are generally seniors, be it 4 or 5 years of eligibility, and those guys on average go later in drafts because they played out their whole eligibility and would have declared earlier had they been good enough. So it makes sense that guys who declare earlier generally have better careers because they tend to be more talented players, but you'd have to control for where they were drafted to really have a sense of how much it matters independent of that.

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reamer said:

I like takes that are off the beaten path, but some of these rankings are really tough for me. Jerome Baker above Vita Vea (or even in the top 50 grades at all)? Don't overthink Barkley, either.

Callaway is undraftable for me. Far too many red flags. Any one of them on their own aren't insurmountable, but he has such a repeated pattern of poor choices. I don't think he's a bad kid, but I think he has displayed bad judgement over and over again. I'm not interested.

I like the bold inclusion of Chad Thomas. He could be a super star if he puts it all together. Seems a bit high for him, but I do like the potential.

Kyzir White and Kemoko Turay are two favorites of mine, but they both have their warts. I think they can be productive players in the league, but I wouldn't take either one in the top two rounds. They're role players who have defined skill sets -- there's a spot for them right away, but the downside is that they're not likely to expand that role due to limitations.

Anyway, I'm nitpicking. I like challenging my preconceptions.

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primetime said:

Roquan Smith is a guy I haven't looked at even a little bit, so I'm going to watch some clips and dream of trading up.

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