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Yeah, his 1,122 yards from scrimmage and 7 TDs was pretty mediocre. And, catching 6 of 8 for 100 yds in the AFCCG was pretty awful.

How much playing time did he have in the superbowl? And yet he still made the two worst plays for the pats.

Good riddance to this padded stat loser.
 
This tackle class is so full of holes that taking a tackle at 31 would be a bad waste of a pick. I'd have Antonio Garcia above every tackle in this draft besides maybe Orlando Brown and Mike McGlinchey. You don't draft positions, you draft players. The value in this draft is at pass rusher, linebacker, corner, and running back - incidentally, all needs for the Patriots.

Amen and amen brother.
 
Cook is a good receiver, but he isn't necessary for the patriots offense to succeed. The offense doesn't really need much retooling beside a consistent running game. Still waiting for that fix on defense we desperately need.
 
How much playing time did he have in the superbowl? And yet he still made the two worst plays for the pats.

Good riddance to this padded stat loser.

I guess I'm just not emotionally involved enough to condemn a player for one or two bad games out of 19 in an otherwise very productive season. It doesn't really matter to me which games they are.
 
Please, Cooks had 65 out 114 = 57% . If he had 4 more catches, he would have 60%. That is as statistical insignificant as it gets.

No its not.

If you think that these aforementioned number are some coincidence youre sadly mistaken.

Almedola 71%
Gonk 65%
Lewis 91%
Burkhead 83%
White 77%
Dorsett 67%

Bradys completion rate is 66% - 2 out of 3 passes completed not because his weapons are in the Cooks range.

Cooks 57%
Hogan 57%

Are low end on totem pole, but Hogan doesnt cost much as a situational WR and had a down season in 2017.
 
They drafted their left tackle of the future last year. I know the newest toy is always the shiniest, but there's no tackle available in this draft that's a measurably better prospect than Antonio Garcia (and many of those in the top 50 are much worse or, like Connor Williams, project better at guard). Yes, Garcia has to show he can get back into football shape, but if you're projecting for 2019, then wasting valuable draft capital on a reach in a ****ty tackle class when you already picked up a comparable prospect last year makes little sense to me.

Comforting to know that Garca could be the answer assuming he gets back in shape.

Waffle is nothing special. NE needs a Mankins like LT so Brady is not killed.

Patriots re-signed OT LaAdrian Waddle to a one-year contract.
Waddle, 26, made five starts at right tackle for last year's Patriots, struggling mightily as a pass blocker and eventually losing his job to Cameron Fleming after Marcus Cannon's year-ending ankle injury. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport called Waddle an "option" to replace Nate Solder as the Patriots' starting left tackle. New England would be smart to add competition in April's draft. Mar 22 - 4:03 PM
 
Once again, if the trade was reversed: the Pats traded their #23 pick for ONE YEAR of Cooks at 8.5m, I would have hated it, and so would most on this board.

And I like Cooks more than most on this board. Very decent outside receiver. But no, he's not 96% of Randy Moss. That's silly. Brady threw to Moss with two DBs all over him and he shrugged them off like toys (Miami game, remember?). When you start talking Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, you're in rarified air, talking about players who can make plays that weren't there for anyone else, and do it on a regular basis.

The Pats were not going to drop 14-16m+ on Cooks, just like they weren't going to franchise Jimmy G with Brady still starting. BB has been very consistent on this of late (Chandler Jones, Malcolm Butler, even Hightower). They go to the players early for the extension, make their offer, then, whatever.

I doubt BB pushed hard to be rid of Cooks - I never heard him to be a problem in the locker room or anything like that. I suspect, though, that he thought 8.5m with no dead money would be a bit steep price for him, but worth it.

So how in the world does he turn down this trade?

Cooks was a GOOD receiver for the Pats, not great...not with those 3rd down stats, which is the bread-and-butter of a Brady offense. So the fit wasn't perfect for either, and it has to be if you're even thinking about top receiver money. If Cooks was in Pittsburgh with a younger Ben, he'd have truly shined, I think. Systems matter.
 
I guess I'm just not emotionally involved enough to condemn a player for one or two bad games out of 19 in an otherwise very productive season. It doesn't really matter to me which games they are.

You can take the time if to look if you want or you can just believe me when I say that I've been on his case all season.

Those stats aren't horrible but I dont believe they show the player I seen with my eyes.

If you wanna present the AFC championship game as a pro then on the flipside the superbowl was a con.

It's not emotional its factual.
 
I read that mcshay did a 2 round mock and 2 of our first 4 picks were mcglinchey and averett. I’ll be ecstatic
 
The rams better have some sort of long term plan, because if they don't win it all this year, the next couple of years are going to be tiiiiiiiiiiiight
 
Comforting to know that Garca could be the answer assuming he gets back in shape.

Waffle is nothing special. NE needs a Mankins like LT so Brady is not killed.

Patriots re-signed OT LaAdrian Waddle to a one-year contract.
Waddle, 26, made five starts at right tackle for last year's Patriots, struggling mightily as a pass blocker and eventually losing his job to Cameron Fleming after Marcus Cannon's year-ending ankle injury. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport called Waddle an "option" to replace Nate Solder as the Patriots' starting left tackle. New England would be smart to add competition in April's draft. Mar 22 - 4:03 PM

Yeah, this Rotoworld blurb struck me as wrong when I first read it. Not only did Waddle perform admirably as a pass blocker last season, he only "lost his job" to Fleming because of injury. Waddle's a better player than he's given credit for, but even if he performs well he's just going to walk in free agency with a big contract next season so he's not a long-term solution.

Realistically, Garcia's the best option for a long-term solution at tackle considering the weakness of this year's class. He was a very good prospect in a good tackle class last year. There are also some hints that the health issue was known to teams going into the draft, which is why he was drafted at the end of the 3rd rather than the top of the 2nd. With Cannon, the Patriots have had good luck finding value on top-40 talents on the offensive line who fall to the mid-rounds because of health flags. Wouldn't shock me if Garcia turns out to be Cannon Part Two.
 
No its not.

If you think that these aforementioned number are some coincidence youre sadly mistaken.

Almedola 71%
Gonk 65%
Lewis 91%
Burkhead 83%
White 77%
Dorsett 67%

Bradys completion rate is 66% - 2 out of 3 passes completed not because his weapons are in the Cooks range.

Cooks 57%
Hogan 57%

Are low end on totem pole, but Hogan doesnt cost much as a situational WR and had a down season in 2017.

It never bothered Rams. BTW, Brady was never good at throwing bombs anyway.
 
No its not.

If you think that these aforementioned number are some coincidence youre sadly mistaken.

Almedola 71%
Gonk 65%
Lewis 91%
Burkhead 83%
White 77%
Dorsett 67%

Bradys completion rate is 66% - 2 out of 3 passes completed not because his weapons are in the Cooks range.

Cooks 57%
Hogan 57%

Are low end on totem pole, but Hogan doesnt cost much as a situational WR and had a down season in 2017.

Those numbers aren't telling the story you think they are. The guys who work deeper on the field will obviously have lower catch percentages as those are more difficult plays and harder to catch throws

Granted, Cooks dropped a few short ones - everyone does. But using 57% catch star without context is laughably bad logic
 
You can take the time if to look if you want or you can just believe me when I say that I've been on his case all season.

Those stats aren't horrible but I dont believe they show the player I seen with my eyes.

If you wanna present the AFC championship game as a pro then on the flipside the superbowl was a con.

It's not emotional its factual.

"On his case"? Yeah, THAT I believe.

Well, y'know, I don't actually watch the games. Or re-play plays with the DVR while the game is in progress. Or re-watch games, or watch the All-22 or any of that silly stuff.

Nope! All I do is look at stats, completely out of context! So, you obviously have me at a distinct disadvantage there, since you've "seen with your eyes."

Still, "padded stats loser" seems more emotional than "factual" to me.
 
Apparently people can't remember that we traded Super Bowl MVP Deion Branch rather than pay him.
Yes because Branch was injury prone and not the right type of elite wr that would be worth top dollar. Doesn't mean he would not pay a wr top money just not to branch
 
There are also some hints that the health issue was known to teams going into the draft,

Had something turned up in the Combine med-check that we haven't heard about?
 
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