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Really man
It's possible this was a reaction vs action but part of me thinks the Patriots wanted more ecpolosiveness in that spot all along

I think youre right.

BB doesnt make moves and then think now what?
 
Really man
It's possible this was a reaction vs action but part of me thinks the Patriots wanted more ecpolosiveness in that spot all along

Could be. I love Dola, but he was often injured and really had slightly above average numbers in the regular season. Obviously on the other hand .....playoff time he's always been $$$.
 
Really man
It's possible this was a reaction vs action but part of me thinks the Patriots wanted more ecpolosiveness in that spot all along

In what spot?
 
Halfback or H-back? (not necessarily a stupid question because Hernandez lined up as a shotgun RB sometimes, and Patterson has good running skills)

I was thinking more H-back that sometimes gets aligned like Hernandez as shotgun RB. Not really a true half back.
 
I think there’s a lot of possibilities. He’s good in open spaces and Josh is creative enough to find a way to get him the ball.

Jet sweep
Bubble screens
Reverses
Get him in motion
Maybe he can at least learn to run some effective slants and shallow crosses.

He’s gonna be up against the 3rd or 4th CB.
 
With regard to the cap hit, it is likely that he will sign a new contract for more than 1 year, with a lower cap.

Some comments on the comments:

1. Lombardi's statement that Patterson's primary job is going to be on ST's is probably closer to reality than most of the speculation that will follow this move.

2. That being said, I think he can be an interesting situational WR as well. Assuming he IS a dumb as a box of rocks and a terrible route runner, the Pats can still find uses for him. He still has an elite combination of size and speed so his presence needs to be accounted for.

He also has decent hands. IIRC, I saw someone use this stat somewhere, that only DA had a better catch ratio last season something like 75%. One of the stat guys can check that out, but it indicates he can catch the ball.

So if all that is true the smart thing to do with him is NOT make him run complex option routes or learn multiple WR positions. So instead of trying to make him do what he has proven he can't do over the last 6 years, simplify the offense for him. Teach him to run crisp 9's, posts, comebacks, back shoulders and fades, and forget about making him be something he isn't. Isn't putting people in a position to succeed what this team does best.

Let this kid feel free to use his vast physical skills and limit the amount of mental work that usually accompanies this very complex offense. Remember at best he'll only be a situational WR with this team. JMHO

3. The only negative I see in this trade is his $3.5MM cap hit. That is high for a guy who isn't doing a lot more than returning KO's. If he is ultimately replacing Slater, then I'd like to know what kind of a gunner he is. Anyone know?

4. Just another thought to think about. Given the fact we only dropped about 5-1o spots at the end of the draft to trade for him, if he doesn't show he can to more than KO returns, I'm sure Bill won't lose a second's sleep cutting him before the season starts.

I think in the end, barring injuries, he'll be battling Britt and Dorsett for the last WR position on the team. Remember you can't hit homers if you don't take swings, even though you know you don't hit homers everytime out, and sometimes you will swing and miss.
 
I’m trying to get excited

Nope.....didn’t work

Agree. I remember him being explosive at UT then being labeled as lazy with Minnesota.

Meanwhile, the dumpster fire that is the defense continues to burn.
 
Just another thought to think about. Given the fact we only dropped about 5-1o spots at the end of the draft to trade for him, if he doesn't show he can to more than KO returns, I'm sure Bill won't lose a second's sleep cutting him before the season starts.

He is gone if he doesnt fit. And if he is a fit maybe they can come to an agreement on a 2-3 year extension that reflects his role and value to the team better.

I think in the end, barring injuries, he'll be battling Britt and Dorsett for the last WR position on the team. Remember you can't hit homers if you don't take swings, even though you know you don't hit homers everytime out, and sometimes you will swing and miss.

I dont think it affects Dorsett that much. But pointless to speculate since the backend of the roster becomes a positional numbers game that is affected a lot by injuries and perceived needs that come up during camp.
 
Agree. I remember him being explosive at UT then being labeled as lazy with Minnesota.

Meanwhile, the dumpster fire that is the defense continues to burn.

I still want to see more added to it, but they've added a NT, DE, and a reasonable (if not quite as good) replacement for Butler at CB, so it's not like we're just trotting out the same group we saw in the Super Bowl. Plus if Hightower can stay healthy, that's better than any other acquisition we have the cap space to make. There's reason for cautious optimism on defense.
 
I don't think it's really a Patterson/Hogan comparison and, at this point in time, I would expect Patterson to take up an ST slot, not a WR slot.

I don't expect us to carry 5 WR's plus Patterson.
 
I don't expect us to carry 5 WR's plus Patterson.

Why? That has been the standard pretty much every year, except with Slater instead.
 
I still want to see more added to it, but they've added a NT, DE, and a reasonable (if not quite as good) replacement for Butler at CB, so it's not like we're just trotting out the same group we saw in the Super Bowl. Plus if Hightower can stay healthy, that's better than any other acquisition we have the cap space to make. There's reason for cautious optimism on defense.

I don’t know man. I don’t think enough has been done to generate pressure on the QB. Not getting off the field on third downs last year was a killer.
 
Yeah, I don't think Patterson is competing with Dorsett or Britt. I think it's a sign that Slater is gone. He's okay when you scheme the ball into his hands because he's obscenely athletic but he shouldn't be an integral piece of any NFL offense. His offensive contributions are pure gravy, similar to when they'd (unsuccessfully) use Slater on fly routes because he had the quickest first step in the league.
 
It depends on how you look at the situation.

With Patterson onboard, there is no reason to keep 5 additional WR's. Patterson is certainly an adequate #5 WR.

Yeah, I don't think Patterson is competing with Dorsett or Britt.
 
Do you think we draft a receiver if a good one falls to us?
I'm in the draft defense and O line camp and maybe take a flier on a receiver or running back in the late rounds.
 
I don’t know man. I don’t think enough has been done to generate pressure on the QB. Not getting off the field on third downs last year was a killer.

You may be right, ultimately. But with limited cap space we didn't exactly have the luxury of bringing in a high priced pass rusher (they always get overpaid anyway, even the ones that are worth it). But if (and these are definitely IF's, in the offseason), these pieces pan out, the pass rush should improve:

If Shelton can help shore up the middle, it not only helps collapse the pocket for other rushers, but also bolsters run defense to get us in more 3rd and longs.

If Clayborn can contribute to an edge rush rotation, it gives us another piece and keeps other players fresher. It also potentially allows Flowers to rush more inside on 3rd down, where I feel he is best.

If Wise can build off of his solid rookie year, he helps. Same with if Rivers can come back from injury. Not a guarantee on either, but those are potential areas of improvement. Ditto for Butler.

Hightower instantly becomes our best blitzing linebacker (and a damn good one).

And we still have potential signings and the draft to add other pieces. We're not there yet, but it's not being neglected.
 
I don’t know man. I don’t think enough has been done to generate pressure on the QB. Not getting off the field on third downs last year was a killer.

But who could we have signed for $3.5 million that would solve our pass rushing problems?

If it was assured this would be our last move of the off-season, certainly people can be concerned about LT and the overall pass rush. But it's still March, we still have the draft, we still have some cap space and the ability to make more with some restructures/extensions.

The Pats are making the team better, it's not their job to only improve the team in the correct order of importance.
 
I think there’s a lot of possibilities. He’s good in open spaces and Josh is creative enough to find a way to get him the ball.

Jet sweep
Bubble screens
Reverses
Get him in motion
Maybe he can at least learn to run some effective slants and shallow crosses.

He’s gonna be up against the 3rd or 4th CB.

Except that when he lines up, the defense will probably know what is coming.
 
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