Jets just traded for #3 overall

XLIX said:

As much as it sickens me to agree with the forum doofus, JF79 is right. It is silly to take draft value numbers (which I believe are older than the current draft format of slotted salaries) and make them the gospel truth for every season, every draft.

I’ll say the same thing I say whenever a trade like this is made: no price is too high for a franchise QB. However, get back to me in 4 years to see if the selection made is indeed a franchise QB. I don’t think Bradford or Darnold fit the bill.

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But this is why it makes sense to draft a potential franchise QB only when you're naturally in position to do so without "tanking" or selling half the farm (like the Jete have) to get there. The Jete are gambling on striking gold vs. taking a more prudent approach to team-building in which they could get richer mining silver.

AndyJohnson said:

Then they are idiots.
You don’t blanket 3 QBs and call them the same and take the one the other 2 teams don’t like.

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I think you missed the original tweet, it's the Jetes. Of course they're going to do something stupid.

Tunescribe said:

But this is why it makes sense to draft a potential franchise QB only when you're naturally in position to do so without "tanking" or selling half the farm (like the Jete have) to get there. The Jete are gambling on striking gold vs. taking a more prudent approach to team-building in which they could get richer mining silver.

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They are building for the future by winning now.

Tunescribe said:

Aside from the price the Jete paid being way too steep, you don't trade down from No. 6 to No. 3 banking on getting one of two top targeted choices. Pretty much after that, it's a tossup and not worth it. It's hard to justify giving away THREE second-round picks in this situation no matter how you slice it.

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No it’s not. It all depends on the evaluation if you have 3 guys in mind and after that you find everyone after them inferior, you get in there. The Jets definitely were going to be pushed out of the top 3 QB’s with Denver ahead of them, there was a chance of Buffalo trading up as well.

Tunescribe said:

But this is why it makes sense to draft a potential franchise QB only when you're naturally in position to do so without "tanking" or selling half the farm (like the Jete have) to get there.

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The Jete front office have their marching orders: get me a QB or you're fired!

Tunescribe said:

The Jete are gambling on striking gold vs. taking a more prudent approach to team-building in which they could get richer mining silver.

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Just read a quote on Twitter from a stats professor that if the goal is to get a franchise QB the Jete would have better luck if they had just chosen the best QB available using the #6 and the three second rounders, so the Jete aren't even gambling correctly!

KontradictioN said:

Targeting a QB for sure. The Colts fleeced them.

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Depends. How sure are we that Luck is ever going to play again?

New York would be the perfect place for Baker Mayfield to flame out - the local media will eat the kid alive.

lancerman said:

No it’s not. It all depends on the evaluation if you have 3 guys in mind and after that you find everyone after them inferior, you get in there. The Jets definitely were going to be pushed out of the top 3 QB’s with Denver ahead of them, there was a chance of Buffalo trading up as well.

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You're moving the goal posts. I specified their top TWO choices, you're referring to their top three.

JetFan79 said:

I don't know about that. Rosen may be ready right away. I say don't rush it, but if he's ready, no reason to hold him back.

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That might not sit well with McClown and Bilgewater.

JetFan79 said:

No pressure one way or the other.

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No, not at all. It's only been 50 YEARS. What's another 50 YEARS without a title -- especially after the local big brother Giants have won four Super Bowls, been to another, and goofball owner Woody has mandated team brass to draft a rookie franchise QB savior to turn things around? Nope, no pressure ...

Dolts couldnt pull the trigger fast enough on this one. Way to go Green tirds, makes your Sanchez deal look genious.

Tunescribe said:

You're moving the goal posts. I specified their top TWO choices, you're referring to their top three.

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But I don't think they see it that way, so I don't think you're opinion is reflective of the reality of how a lot of people view this class. I think a lot of people view Darnold and Rosen as the clear cut favorites and then not to far behind them is Allen whose impressing everyone and is maybe a smidge behind them.

Then Mayfield and Jackson are seen as projects who will probably get drafted way too high because of the market and the Jets didn't want to get stuck in a situation where they had this really high pick but were going to take the 4th best QB at best and be overeaching. They wanted to guarantee they get one of the three polished guys that everybody is all in on.

The worst case scenario for them is they end up drafting Allen who most people are impressed with. The best case is that Cleveland or New York get sold on drafting Barkley (especially Cleveland since they have 4 and would still get a top 3 QB) and now all of a sudden they can get Darnold or Rosen.

But either way I think the Jets were in a position where they felt they NEEDED a QB and felt like 3 of the QB's in the draft were legitimate top of the draft caliber QB's and they could work with any of them, and everyone left was a project who would be bought too high with the 6th pick and they'd be stuck making something out of Mayfield or Jackson.

In that case, yeah make the trade to get someone you are sure of than wait 3 picks and get someone you aren't crazy about just because you didn't want to cough up the picks.

Patriot Missile said:

Dolts couldnt pull the trigger fast enough on this one. Way to go Green tirds, makes your Sanchez deal look genious.

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It was an easy decision for the Colts. They have Luck. They aren't drafting a QB. Cleveland, NYG, MYJ, Denver all need a QB.

The only thing that concerns them is who Cleveland uses with their second top 5 pick. Chubbs or Barkley. Based on who is picked by the Browns, the Colts are still getting either a running back who is viewed as a generational prospect or the best defensive prospect in the draft who they could use a lot. There was very little risk for the Colts.

Considering BB balance against rookie QBs, Jets' fans will be frustrated again at least during this season.

Iffy move by the Jete, but they'll probably now get the best DL in the draft.

It’d be honestly fascinating if instead of trading up they spent all those picks on different QBs and refrained from signing the vets. Just go in with whichever Qb falls to 6, let’s say it’s Mayfield, and then take two more in the 2nd round. Let’s say Lauletta and Mike White. Then it’s Thunderdome in training camp.