Giardi: Patriots Players are Miserable

Jackson 2 · Mar 16, 2018

Boomer B said:
The first day of Deflategate Bill said go ask Tom. He’s the QB and he handles the balls. He threw Brady under the bus and ran over him a few times that day.

BS. That's not throwing Brady under the bus. Did you watch Belichick's press conference the next week? The famous Mona Lisa conference? He debunked the entire issue, so stop with that crap.

Actual Pats Fan · Mar 16, 2018

supafly said:
Except it actually appears to be happening, despite the “laugh it off” attitude of many of our fans, and a good portion of it seems to be stemming from the Alex Guerrero situation.

Unless you missed how the end of Tom’s documentary ended, Gronk’s tweets about being happy and free, the fact that we don’t even know if he’ll be playing or not, Bob Kraft’s comments, and the countless media reports?

I’m not saying that it’s as bad as they’re making it out to be, but you’d have to have your head buried in the sand if you don’t think that something is going on. I don’t think that Belichick changed his MO, but his controlling nature (which is to be expected to some degree) about Guerrero’s role does seem to be very troublesome in terms of how it is affecting our star players—who already feel that they are taking hometown discounts at the moment.

Damn, I got sand in my ears, up my nose, and in my mouth!! Blech!!

Actual Pats Fan · Mar 16, 2018

Patsgofor4 said:
“I’m not feeling appreciated”....IF true, give me a break.

The New England Housewives...

There you go.

Actual Pats Fan · Mar 16, 2018

Jackson 2 said:
BS. That's not throwing Brady under the bus. Did you watch Belichick's press conference the next week? The famous Mona Lisa conference? He debunked the entire issue, so stop with that crap.

I think Boomer got it mixed up with the SNL satire

Actual Pats Fan · Mar 16, 2018

Tony2046 said:

They Hate Their Coach

IcyPatriot · Mar 16, 2018

Are we discussing participation medals for practices yet?

Boomer B · Mar 16, 2018

Jackson 2 said:
BS. That's not throwing Brady under the bus. Did you watch Belichick's press conference the next week? The famous Mona Lisa conference? He debunked the entire issue, so stop with that crap.

I’m not talking about the 2nd day. The first day he completely threw Brady under the bus. Instead of his typical ‘grunt, sniff, we’re onto Seattle” or an easy ‘no comment’ or ‘we’re looking into the matter and will have more to say at a later time” he said “talk to Tom, he deals with the footballs.” He probably thought something was up and was washing his hands. He could of given a ‘no comment’ but choose to throw it on Brady’s lap. Wasn’t a great example of leadership from Bill.

supafly · Mar 16, 2018

TheBostonStraggler said:
Sup, my point wasn't about the players who left (if my post read that way, it was in error). I was trying to draw a comparison with A. other teams being less fanatic but easier to play for, B. BB team being fanatic and harder to play for, C. at the end of the day winning feels very good/soothes a lot of aches from the fanaticism.
I'm sure players were upset when Milloy was cut (or traded, I can't remember). I'm sure TB and other team leaders have been upset before with BB decisions and ways. And I'm betting winning is ultimately a fine bottle of wine.
IF it is true (and that is a BIG, GIANT if) that Brady and others are uniquely unhappy, I'm betting there will still be camp, still be BB fanatical training, and still be the likelihood of more wins than not ending up in the SB mix. And at the end of the day for players that have an easier process on other teams but those teams are losing often, members of those teams will dislike the taste of the twist off CVS brand bottle of wine they'll be drinking.
We shall see come Sept-Dec.

Gotcha. Apologies for my misinterpretation, but there were some others who were referring to the recent FA losses as proof, so I wasn’t sure if that’s where you were going, too.

1960Pats · Mar 16, 2018

BradyFTW! said:
Yeah, as much as I think this whole issue is likely being sensationalized and overblown as the media tends to do, it does seem like there is something here, in some capacity.

Even the something is nothing.

scott99 · Mar 16, 2018

I guess they aren’t having fun making millions of dollars playing a kid’s game and winning every year. It must be so difficult.

rochrist · Mar 16, 2018

lancerman said:
The difference between you and Brady is that Brady can walk out tomorrow and every company in his industry would pay top dollar for a one year contract and Brady's new team would instantly be several magnitudes better for it and Brady's old team will be several magnitudes worse for it.

People shouldn't forget that Belichick went 5-11 and was 0-2 staring down another mediocre season when Brady showed up.

Yes, Brady just 'showed up' like a magical unicorn.

Jackson 2 · Mar 16, 2018

Boomer B said:
I’m not talking about the 2nd day. The first day he completely threw Brady under the bus. Instead of his typical ‘grunt, sniff, we’re onto Seattle” or an easy ‘no comment’ or ‘we’re looking into the matter and will have more to say at a later time” he said “talk to Tom, he deals with the footballs.” He probably thought something was up and was washing his hands. He could of given a ‘no comment’ but choose to throw it on Brady’s lap. Wasn’t a great example of leadership from Bill.

With all due respect, that's as a revisionist history of what happened there as anyone could possibly concoct. You're inventing and lying. And it's " could have", not " could of."

upstater1 · Mar 16, 2018

holyredeemer said:
What special treatment?

Having his guru rubbing him vigorously.

upstater1 · Mar 16, 2018

IllegalContact said:
and where do you think Brady would be if it weren't for BB drafting him? probably ringless

He'd have more than a few rings. You really think he wouldn't? Brady could go to a handful of teams and put them over the top this year.

Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Houston, San Diego, Minnesota.

holyredeemer · Mar 16, 2018

upstater1 said:
Having his guru rubbing him vigorously.

Gotcha. That’s not what I was referring to when saying special treatment. I don’t care who rubs him down (Tom, if you read this, PM me. I’m available!) As far as special treatment I was talking about him having his own special room to get rubbed down and all of that.

1960Pats · Mar 16, 2018

supafly said:
It’s all a conspiracy, like the JFK shooting. Instead of Brady choosing to end his documentary by smiling, opening up a playbook, throwing a football, watching some film, or even alluding to the future in any positive manner whatsoever, the evil mediots somehow spun it around and paid off the director to lower people’s spirits.

Gronk’s actually very happy with his role and isn’t really contemplating retirement. There’s nothing to see in his capitalization of the words “happy” and “free.” The team didn’t actually try hard to stop Daniels from running his story on Gronk and Guerrero. Curran has it all wrong. Brady wasn’t forced to find a place to receive treatment in an upper suite with a makeshift blind in front so that no one could see, and Kraft didn’t speak on the tensions inside of the building. Everything is how it usually runs at Gillette. Totally normal.

At first I was going to just answer agreed to your post and act like I didn't get the sarcasm.

I guess I should have made that "to me, the something is nothing. The big story to me is about the players who are leaving and how to replace them.

JarOfMayo51 · Mar 16, 2018

aluminum seats said:
Am I the only one who has made no effort to watch the show? It's not that I wouldn't watch, but I don't really care enough to make the effort.

Really, all I care about is that they come back and play. After getting rid of JG, any suggestion from Brady that he might not is outrageous, so I'll ignore that and assume it's meaningless. Just play and win. (And don't bench starting cornerbacks in the Super Bowl. Also that.)

Ive only watched a little bit of the first one, im sure ill watch it at some point but im not compelled to do so

supafly · Mar 16, 2018

1960Pats said:
At first I was going to just answer agreed to your post and act like I didn't get the sarcasm.

I guess I should have made that "to me, the something is nothing. The big story to me is about the players who are leaving and how to replace them.

I don’t think the players leaving in FA is an issue, particularly when you choose to break it down by each individual deal.

Butler—never expected to re-sign.

Solder—just became the highest paid OL in league history.

Amendola—just signed the exact same deal that took Wes Welker to the Broncos (2/12 with 8.5m guaranteed). He certainly wasn’t going to get that here as the WR4-5. Does Julian Edelman even make that much?

Lewis—we expected to offer around 4.5m, maybe 5m on a shorter term deal, but TEN came along and offered him a four year deal at 6m a year average, with 11.5m guaranteed.

upstater1 · Mar 16, 2018

holyredeemer said:
Gotcha. That’s not what I was referring to when saying special treatment. I don’t care who rubs him down (Tom, if you read this, PM me. I’m available!) As far as special treatment I was talking about him having his own special room to get rubbed down and all of that.

I have no idea how they were running things, but if I were Belichick and Brady insisted the trainers go nowhere near him, and that only Guerrero attend to him, I'd let him do it. Even if it meant the trainers lose face. They are employees--they are there to help the Patriots win. Brady is a player, also there to help them win. Do the things that help you win. As for egos, stuff them.

IcyPatriot · Mar 16, 2018

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