Our Secondary

IllegalContact · Feb 15, 2018

Draft one CB and 2 safeties

Chris Stevenson · Feb 15, 2018

mgteich said:
Rowe doesn't have convince this board of his value, especially not based on his performance in one game. He has already convinced the coaches.

Yeah, he's pretty solid and gives them an additional mix and match guy in man coverage.

In all honesty, I feel like we played way too much man this year. Very unlike a BB D.

Bourne Again Christian · Feb 15, 2018

PatriotsNumero1Fan said:
Rowe's gonna have to play a lot better than what i saw in the super bowl if he will be our second corner.

My guess is isn't fully healed from his injuries

captain stone · Feb 15, 2018

mgteich said:
I expect Butler to play elsewhere.

SAFETY
We all want Belichick to find an upgrade to Richards. Maybe, this will be the year. Our top 3 are among the best in the NFL. In any case, no upgrades are needed.

CORNER
We have Gilmore, Rowe, J Jones, and C Jones.
I expect us to re-sign/extend Badmosi. He's a fine #5 CB, a STer who can start.
I would like to see us bring in a top nickel back; the cost would not be great. At very least, I see Belichick bringing in 2-3 corners to compete with the Jones boys, and perhaps Rowe (although I think that Belichick is fine with Rowe starting).

I doubt that our top 3 Safeties are among the best in the NFL, but whatever.

As of now, we don't have Jonathan Jones, and might not have him for All of next season either, if he indeed suffered a torn Achilles tendon.

The cost would not be great to bring in a top Nickel back? That's news to me.

And if Bill really is fine with Rowe starting, then he has truly gone Full ******.

maineman209 · Feb 16, 2018

IllegalContact said:
Draft one CB and 2 safeties

I'd say ...
- draft one safety; add another 1-2 UDFAs
- sign one relatively cheap veteran free agent CB and add another 1-2 UDFAs

maineman209 · Feb 16, 2018

captain stone said:
I doubt that our top 3 Safeties are among the best in the NFL, but whatever.

As of now, we don't have Jonathan Jones, and might not have him for All of next season either, if he indeed suffered a torn Achilles tendon.

The cost would not be great to bring in a top Nickel back? That's news to me.

And if Bill really is fine with Rowe starting, then he has truly gone Full ******.

I'd say that McCourty and Chung are among the best in the NFL at what they do. They're much more versatile than most NFL safeties and there are many NFL teams that haven't even begun to use safeties the way the Pats do.

"Torn Achilles" for JJ? First I've heard of that. Most reports I've read have said "broken foot".

IllegalContact · Feb 16, 2018

maineman209 said:
I'd say ...
- draft one safety; add another 1-2 UDFAs
- sign one relatively cheap veteran free agent CB and add another 1-2 UDFAs

I would draft 2 safeties due to the fact that we have mccourty, chung, and harmon.......good experience, good leadership......we can afford to bring in youth there and spend FA dollars elsewhere......that's what I was thinking

I'd go far enough to say it's a priority.......mccourty and chung aren't spring chickens

I just went through a draft sim that netted us with DE Davenport, SS Harrison, and FS Reid with our 1st 3 picks

patriot1136 · Feb 16, 2018

The 2 safeties we have on the practice squad, D. Jones and Travis, are they any good? Maybe they will push for a roster spot?

IllegalContact · Feb 16, 2018

patriot1136 said:
The 2 safeties we have on the practice squad, D. Jones and Travis, are they any good? Maybe they will push for a roster spot?

I always see UDFA and PS types as a bonus if they show up, but I would never have an expectation

so maybe

Chris Stevenson · Feb 16, 2018

maineman209 said:
I'd say that McCourty and Chung are among the best in the NFL at what they do. They're much more versatile than most NFL safeties and there are many NFL teams that haven't even begun to use safeties the way the Pats do.

"Torn Achilles" for JJ? First I've heard of that. Most reports I've read have said "broken foot".

Broken foot is probably better. Do you have a source? Admittedly, I have been regurgitating assumptions based on how he looked when he went down.

maineman209 · Feb 16, 2018

IllegalContact said:
I would draft 2 safeties due to the fact that we have mccourty, chung, and harmon.......good experience, good leadership......we can afford to bring in youth there and spend FA dollars elsewhere......that's what I was thinking

I'd go far enough to say it's a priority.......mccourty and chung aren't spring chickens

I just went through a draft sim that netted us with DE Davenport, SS Harrison, and FS Reid with our 1st 3 picks

With only 6 picks and other areas to address, I went with one drafted safety. There hasn't been a lot of quality difference between safeties who are still on the board after the 3rd round and those who can be picked up as UDFAs.

But, I agree about now being the time to bring in some youth to groom.

captain stone · Feb 16, 2018

maineman209 said:
"Torn Achilles" for JJ? First I've heard of that. Most reports I've read have said "broken foot".

Chris Stevenson said:
Broken foot is probably better. Do you have a source? Admittedly, I have been regurgitating assumptions based on how he looked when he went down.

Hmmm...I haven't found any updates on his condition since he was placed on IR for "foot/ankle," and I don't remember now exactly where I heard or read about his Achilles tendon, so maybe it's not as bad as I imagined. I hope so.

Uptown · Feb 16, 2018

Report: Kyle Fuller won't be returning to the Bears

PatriotsNumero1Fan · Feb 16, 2018

Chris Stevenson said:
Yeah, he's pretty solid and gives them an additional mix and match guy in man coverage.

In all honesty, I feel like we played way too much man this year. Very unlike a BB D.

Well you have to be able to play man in today's NFL. Zone coverage gets picked apart.

Kdo5 · Feb 16, 2018

VectorPrime said:
I have a morbid curiosity to see what a defense with Jordan Richards and Cyrus Jones on the field together at the same time looks like.

Yeah stick them on the Jets first then I'd be happy to witness it.

Kdo5 · Feb 16, 2018

mgteich said:
Rowe doesn't have convince this board of his value, especially not based on his performance in one game. He has already convinced the coaches.

Rowe is an OK #3. He is still young but at this point he is average. Not exactly a guy I'd be comfortable starting.

I am curious about Jonathan Jones. He looked quite impressive on a number of occasions. If he takes the next step that would be great. In retrospect Jones getting injured at the end of the season hurt us. If Bill was really intent on benching Butler, I thought Jones could have been decent to have.

And yeah clearly Richards must go! I hate the idea that if any of our top safeties got hurt that he gets playing time.

IllegalContact · Feb 16, 2018

maineman209 said:
With only 6 picks and other areas to address, I went with one drafted safety. There hasn't been a lot of quality difference between safeties who are still on the board after the 3rd round and those who can be picked up as UDFAs.

But, I agree about now being the time to bring in some youth to groom.

Last year we had 4 picks and used 2 on OT and 2 DE......

I also believe they move either the 1/31 or 2/11 pick

ashley · Feb 16, 2018

If we get rid of Richards and upgrade our pass rush, our secondary will be so much better!!!

maineman209 · Feb 16, 2018

UptownPatsFan said:
Report: Kyle Fuller won't be returning to the Bears

La Canfora speculation. He's right about Fuller commanding a premium contract. OTOH, the Bears have $42M in cap space before their roster purge and only a couple "must re-sign" UFAs besides Fuller.

maineman209 · Feb 16, 2018

ashley1992 said:
If we get rid of Richards and upgrade our pass rush, our secondary will be so much better!!!

IOW, the Pats manage to acquire an upgrade replacement for Richards.

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