JOSH IS STAYING!!

Huge news, I was fine with losing Patricia to the point that I really think we might be better off in 2 years without him. But McDaniels had no replacement; I'm sure we ultimately would've been fine, but this makes the offseason equation much better. Once the answer is found at LT--and if we can't sign Solder to a long term contract, I think it's an easy call to just franchise him--the offense is pretty much good to go. Ideally Cooks gets signed too, but I don't think even that's really a necessity.

Now the Pats can spend pretty much all of their considerable assets addressing the lack of talent in the front seven, which puts us in a great position to come away with a 2014-caliber team.

Also, as with what others are speculating above, I assume this came with some kind of promotion and/or raise for McDaniels. Makes sense that if Belichick is anywhere near retirement and he's up to following a legend, this would be the place where he'd want to be. He's been working with J. Kraft long enough to know what he'd be getting into, and if he likes it here as it seems he does that's pretty much best case scenario.

JarOfMayo51 said:

lol over at the Colts forum they believe the NFL is going to compensate them with multiple draft picks from the Patriots for this, including MULTIPLE FIRST ROUND PICKS hahahahahahaahahahaha!!!!

Man, if there was ever a silver lining in that ****show of a SB.. This is it!

**** the Colts!

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That franchise and fanbase always wants Goodell to hand them everything.

Patstopia said:

I am going to assume that all the mediots will turn this into a BB retirement scenario and drone on and on about how the end is near. I hate the media, always about controversy.

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There are a couple exchanges where the whole thread is chock full of the "heir apparent" thing, and one guy said Matt P has kids, and right there that puts him past BB's retirement.

I mean, maybe so. Maybe that happens next year, I dunno. But maybe Marv Levy.

The narrative about Belichick retirement is sillier than about Brady retirement. It appears to be driven by the narrative in the Wickersham article.

Maybe W was spot on and everything was accurate. Again, I'll believe any of this when I see something more than "I heard that..."

Did BB announce that he's planning to leave the Pats? What else, other than tea-leaf reading, are we talking about here?

This **** is like reading about who was standing closest to Brezhnev in the May Day parade.

ATippett56 said:

J-E-T-E or J-E-S-T?

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J-E-T-E

Deus Irae said:

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Colts arent that good looking

Dunno if this is true, but I wouldn't mind this narrative taking off. **** the Colts.

Tony2046 said:

J-E-T-E

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never gets old

This reminds me of Billy Beane spurning the Red Sox in 2002. They had a verbal understanding he was coming to the Red Sox, but he had a last second change of heart and stayed in Oakland for less money. He decided that he and his family were already happy.

This led to the Red Sox having no plan B, like the Colts, and signing a 28 year old nobody had ever heard of to be the GM. Let's hope that doesn't work out so well for the Colts.

The funny thing is, I only remember praise by the media towards Beane for his decision. I guess the A's weren't as hated by the media as the Patriots are.

PatsFanInVa said:

Did BB announce that he's planning to leave the Pats? What else, other than tea-leaf reading, are we talking about here?

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1) McDaniels wants to be a HC in the pretty near term. Why else did he go interviewing and then go further and (initially) accept the IND offer?
2) McDaniels has to know that leaving IND at the altar like that is going to make him radioactive. No one is going to want to touch him for years. So that means any HC ambitions he has are dead, dead, dead anywhere other than NE.
3) McDaniels had a guaranteed HC job. So it is very reasonable to expect he's been given assurances about becoming the next HC of the NEP. Would be strange to give up a guaranteed HC job now for a future maybe HC job.

Putting all that together, unless McDaniels has had a massive change in his ambitions, he is expecting to be the head coach here pretty soon, which in turn means that Belichick would be leaving pretty soon.

Tony2046 said:

J-E-T-E

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Speaking of the J-E-T-E, it is less than three months from that time of year.

QuantumMechanic said:

1) McDaniels wants to be a HC in the pretty near term. Why else did he go interviewing and then go further and (initially) accept the IND offer?
2) McDaniels has to know that leaving IND at the altar like that is going to make him radioactive. No one is going to want to touch him for years. So that means any HC ambitions he has are dead, dead, dead anywhere other than NE.
3) McDaniels had a guaranteed HC job. So it is very reasonable to expect he's been given assurances about becoming the next HC of the NEP. Would be strange to give a guaranteed HC job now for a future maybe HC job.

Putting all that together, unless McDaniels has had a massive change in his ambitions, he is expecting to be the head coach here pretty soon, which in turn means that Belichick would be leaving pretty soon.

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Nothing McDaniels has done is logical.

mosslost said:

I agree. But potentially a lawsuit that the Colts were damaged, and the team has hired assistants that are for and from Josh. I could see the league being bastards.

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But having Josh work to have Colts hire assistants would violate NFL rules, so there's that.

Good. If I was asked at any point this year which coordinator I’d rather keep I probably woulda said MP, but it’s certainly nice to not lose both from a consistency standpoint. This whole SB/Butler situation is so messy I won’t hang MP for it, but all things considered after that game I guess I’d rather keep the O guy.

I like Josh a lot, just calls too cute for his own good sometime. Happy to have him remain in this fold. Happier still that the Colts feel jilted at the altar lol.

If it means some other stuff is going down or being decided with B.B. so be it we’ll see, not going to worry about that now just feel it’s a positive to have one fewer question mark two days into the offseason.

festy1986 said:

McDaniels play calling in the first quarter and half is a top 3 reason we lost that Superbowl.

I was so happy to see him go

This upsets me

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Is that you NEM?

convertedpatsfan said:

...I didn't know that...

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That's cause it ain't true. He went to RPI, still a respectable school, but not quite MIT.

QuantumMechanic said:

1) McDaniels wants to be a HC in the pretty near term. Why else did he go interviewing and then go further and (initially) accept the IND offer?
2) McDaniels has to know that leaving IND at the altar like that is going to make him radioactive. No one is going to want to touch him for years. So that means any HC ambitions he has are dead, dead, dead anywhere other than NE.
3) McDaniels had a guaranteed HC job. So it is very reasonable to expect he's been given assurances about becoming the next HC of the NEP. Would be strange to give up a guaranteed HC job now for a future maybe HC job.

Putting all that together, unless McDaniels has had a massive change in his ambitions, he is expecting to be the head coach here pretty soon, which in turn means that Belichick would be leaving pretty soon.

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QuantumMechanic said:

1) McDaniels wants to be a HC in the pretty near term. Why else did he go interviewing and then go further and (initially) accept the IND offer?
2) McDaniels has to know that leaving IND at the altar like that is going to make him radioactive. No one is going to want to touch him for years. So that means any HC ambitions he has are dead, dead, dead anywhere other than NE.
3) McDaniels had a guaranteed HC job. So it is very reasonable to expect he's been given assurances about becoming the next HC of the NEP. Would be strange to give up a guaranteed HC job now for a future maybe HC job.

Putting all that together, unless McDaniels has had a massive change in his ambitions, he is expecting to be the head coach here pretty soon, which in turn means that Belichick would be leaving pretty soon.

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Doesn't that bolster my theory that Bill threw the game possibly as revenge against the Brady/Kraft camp and took down Butler a notch too?

Our syphilitic owner and our clown offensive coordinator deserve each other. He cares about his family, but what about the families of the three hires who were already working. One B.B. and T.B leave he’ll need a ticket to get into another stadium.