Connor McGregor's cryptic message?

captain insano said:

my money is on mcgregor. floyd is coming out of retirment and hes 40 years old. you heard it here first. mcgregor for the win.

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Browns to win SB52. You heard it here.

Richard Camembert said:

Are Mayweather's speed and defense that good?

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Yes.

The only x-factor is that he's 40 years old... but he is a legendary defensive style fighter and he's probably counting on McGregor doing exactly what you described in the first part of your quote.. which will tire McGregor out and then Mayweather will dance around him like a ballerina for 12 rounds and win by decision

There is zero chance that McGregor wins a decision in this fight... they will not allow Mayweather's first career loss to come on a decision against an MMA fighter.. ZERO chance

Conor has no chance. This is boxing and he is not a true boxer, (Footwork and technique is all different in MMA). People touting Conor's knockout power are not accounting for the thin MMA gloves which allow fighters to knock out an apponent with a jab. 16oz boxing gloves are a different matter. Mayweather is among the best of all time and his defense is legendary. Mayweather is going to toy with and humiliate him.

While I do think the fight will be boring AF, the hype is some of the most fun I've had surrounding boxing in years. Probably since Tyson-Holyfield days.

McGregor's only chance is to bite Mayweather's ear off.

TheFlyingWedge said:

Conor has no chance. This is boxing and he is not a true boxer, (Footwork and technique is all different in MMA). People touting Conor's knockout power are not accounting for the thin MMA gloves which allow fighters to knock out an apponent with a jab. 6oz boxing gloves are a different matter. Mayweather is among the best of all time and his defense is legendary. Mayweather is going to toy with and humiliate him.

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"Eddie Bravo has no chance in a submission grappling showdown vs Royler Gracie"

"Marius Pudzianowski has no chance against Rolles Gracie in an MMA fight"

"Brock Lesnar has no chance of winning a fight, let alone reaching the top of the UFC heavyweight division"

Predicting Mayweather to win a relatively easy decision is one thing. Making statements like "X has no chance" is silly.

Also, no one gets KO'd with a jab in MMA, and they spar with 16 oz gloves.

DarrylS said:

If I was a millionaire would not pay for this fight..

Will wait for the free highlights on youtube on August 27th or 28th.. it will be a ton of ******** and hype prior to the fight.

A whole lot of publicity for a "fight" that will take place in 40 days..

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I don't think any fight is worth $100. Luckily, there are many ways in which you can watch it for free.

I have never been a fan of throwing shade at a team...and to be honest our boys won the game, they won the game...

I just wish it was mayweather going to MMA, I love watching boxers who think they are god's get annihilated in seconds in a cage.

FourierSeries said:

Predicting Mayweather to win a relatively easy decision is one thing. Making statements like "X has no chance" is silly.

Also, no one gets KO'd with a jab in MMA, and they spar with 16 oz gloves.

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Its not silly at all. I would say Mayweather would have no chance in an MMA fight with Conor too. Different rules, different techniques.

Of course MMA fighters spar with the 16oz gloves because the MMA gloves do heavier damage which is my point. Go ahead try sparring with them vs. 16 oz gloves - Be my guest. You seem to know some MMA but have you practiced any? I have trained and been an instructor for over 10 years.

You want to see a good MMA jab knockout Diaz - Lawler comes to mind and Silva polished off Forrest Griffin with a backpedaling jab.

Its going to be hard for McGregor to not resort back to MMA when he gets tired. He will likely come out like a tornado trying to knock Mayweather out, but Mayweather will bide his time patiently and play defense.

My money is on Mayweather. His sport with his rules.

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TheFlyingWedge said:

Its not silly at all. I would say Mayweather would have no chance in an MMA fight with Conor too. Different rules, different techniques.

Of course MMA fighters spar with the 16oz gloves because the MMA gloves do heavier damage which is my point. Go ahead try sparring with them vs. 16 oz gloves - Be my guest. You seem to know some MMA but have you practiced any? I have trained and been an instructor for over 10 years.

You want to see a good MMA jab knockout Diaz - Lawler comes to mind and Silva polished off Forrest Griffin with a backpedaling jab.

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Everything is inherently probabilistic. Mayweather would still have a chance in an MMA fight, but it would be much much much lower than McGregor's chances inside a boxing ring, simply due to the rule set. There are so many more things a boxer doesn't know about MMA than an MMA fighter doesn't know about boxing. A boxer has zero training in muay thai, wrestling, jiu jitsu, kickboxing, etc. They never have to defend takedowns, defend ground and pound or submission attempts from their back, defend kicks, etc. Meanwhile, mixed martial artists at least have experience throwing hands, albeit not to the same level of a boxer.

Forrest Griffin had his brain scrambled long before that final blow. He was rocked a couple of times and took some ground and pound from Silva, too.

Bigger gloves take away some punching power, but it won't be as significant as you're making it out to be. If he does manage to land, he will have more than enough power to hurt Floyd. He's got about a 20 pound advantage and many sparring partners have said he hits like a UFC middleweight (185 lb.) The only question is if his many different stances, unorthodox movement, and shots from different angles will open up opportunities while Floyd is trying to figure him out in the opening rounds. It's no different from an NFL defense giving an offense completely new looks meant to confuse them. An opponent's stance will let you read their movement and anticipate where their shots are coming from. I guarantee you Floyd has never seen a muay thai stance, a greco roman wrestling stance, or capoeira before inside the boxing ring.

I expect a typical Mayweather snoozefest of land 1-2 punches per round and run away the rest of the time to a decision win

but if anyone fits the definition of a puncher's chance, it's McGregor. He has KO power, only takes 1 lucky shot landing

FourierSeries said:

Everything is inherently probabilistic. Mayweather would still have a chance in an MMA fight, but it would be much much much lower than McGregor's chances inside a boxing ring, simply due to the rule set. There are so many more things a boxer doesn't know about MMA than an MMA fighter doesn't know about boxing. A boxer has zero training in muay thai, wrestling, jiu jitsu, kickboxing, etc. They never have to defend takedowns, defend ground and pound or submission attempts from their back, defend kicks, etc. Meanwhile, mixed martial artists at least have experience throwing hands, albeit not to the same level of a boxer.

Forrest Griffin had his brain scrambled long before that final blow. He was rocked a couple of times and took some ground and pound from Silva, too.

Bigger gloves take away some punching power, but it won't be as significant as you're making it out to be. If he does manage to land, he will have more than enough power to hurt Floyd. He's got about a 20 pound advantage and many sparring partners have said he hits like a UFC middleweight (185 lb.) The only question is if his many different stances, unorthodox movement, and shots from different angles will open up opportunities while Floyd is trying to figure him out in the opening rounds. It's no different from an NFL defense giving an offense completely new looks meant to confuse them. An opponent's stance will let you read their movement and anticipate where their shots are coming from. I guarantee you Floyd has never seen a muay thai stance, a greco roman wrestling stance, or capoeira before inside the boxing ring.

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Well I agree with the first part about Mayweather's chances of competing with Conor in the octagon but that contradicts what you said earlier. I still believe that you are overestimating how MMA fighting techniques transfer to Boxing.

You are probably right that Conor will try to be unorthodox in hopes of confusing Floyd - but I don't think this gives him any of the advantages that you seem to be implying. Being an awkward or unorthodox style boxer is an artform WITHIN the sport of boxing. There have been some great unorthodox boxers out there like Prince Naseem Hamed, Roy Jones Jr., (and my favorite) Emanuel Augustus, but those styles evolved within the boxing ring. Simply applying a fighting style that was designed and optimized for a different sport like Greco Roman wresting or Capoera (if you consider that a fighting sport LOL) in the boxing ring would be absolutely silly.

For example, if you were to apply a Muay Thai stance or fighting style in the boxing ring, you would get pummeled until you made adjustments because the stance (foot placement) is designed to check and deliver kicks - obviously you don't have to worry about kicks in boxing. Muay Thai also teaches you to square up your hips and apply a 45 degree angle with your shoulders which exposes more of your upper body to punches. Head movement, rolls, dips, and other level changes are limited in Muay Thai because of knee strikes. Therefore, a Muay Thai stance trades off punching power and a lot of defensive capabilities for a more full-range of attacks (kicks, knees, punches, and elbows).

Conor has lots of advantages: age, size, punching power, stamina. However, Floyd is a master boxer and Conor is out of his element. Conor says that he will knockout Floyd within 4 rounds but nobody in 20 years has managed to do that so it will be interesting to see how he plans to do this but I don't think he has a chance.

FourierSeries said:

Everything is inherently probabilistic. Mayweather would still have a chance in an MMA fight, but it would be much much much lower than McGregor's chances inside a boxing ring, simply due to the rule set. There are so many more things a boxer doesn't know about MMA than an MMA fighter doesn't know about boxing. A boxer has zero training in muay thai, wrestling, jiu jitsu, kickboxing, etc. They never have to defend takedowns, defend ground and pound or submission attempts from their back, defend kicks, etc. Meanwhile, mixed martial artists at least have experience throwing hands, albeit not to the same level of a boxer.

Forrest Griffin had his brain scrambled long before that final blow. He was rocked a couple of times and took some ground and pound from Silva, too.

Bigger gloves take away some punching power, but it won't be as significant as you're making it out to be. If he does manage to land, he will have more than enough power to hurt Floyd. He's got about a 20 pound advantage and many sparring partners have said he hits like a UFC middleweight (185 lb.) The only question is if his many different stances, unorthodox movement, and shots from different angles will open up opportunities while Floyd is trying to figure him out in the opening rounds. It's no different from an NFL defense giving an offense completely new looks meant to confuse them. An opponent's stance will let you read their movement and anticipate where their shots are coming from. I guarantee you Floyd has never seen a muay thai stance, a greco roman wrestling stance, or capoeira before inside the boxing ring.

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How does he have a 20 lb advantage? They're both almost identical in size. 5'8"--5'9" and 155 lbs.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Conor McGregor - Wikipedia

supafly said:

How does he have a 20 lb advantage? They're both almost identical in size. 5'8"--5'9" and 155 lbs.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Conor McGregor - Wikipedia

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McGregor fights at 155 lbs but he cuts to get to that weight. He walks around at 170-175 lbs. Whereas Mayweather will have to gain weight to get to 154. Fighters usually gain all of their weight after the weigh-in since they can rehydrate. He'll have about 20 lbs on him on fight night.

TheFlyingWedge said:

Well I agree with the first part about Mayweather's chances of competing with Conor in the octagon but that contradicts what you said earlier. I still believe that you are overestimating how MMA fighting techniques transfer to Boxing.

You are probably right that Conor will try to be unorthodox in hopes of confusing Floyd - but I don't think this gives him any of the advantages that you seem to be implying. Being an awkward or unorthodox style boxer is an artform WITHIN the sport of boxing. There have been some great unorthodox boxers out there like Prince Naseem Hamed, Roy Jones Jr., (and my favorite) Emanuel Augustus, but those styles evolved within the boxing ring. Simply applying a fighting style that was designed and optimized for a different sport like Greco Roman wresting or Capoera (if you consider that a fighting sport LOL) in the boxing ring would be absolutely silly.

For example, if you were to apply a Muay Thai stance or fighting style in the boxing ring, you would get pummeled until you made adjustments because the stance (foot placement) is designed to check and deliver kicks - obviously you don't have to worry about kicks in boxing. Muay Thai also teaches you to square up your hips and apply a 45 degree angle with your shoulders which exposes more of your upper body to punches. Head movement, rolls, dips, and other level changes are limited in Muay Thai because of knee strikes. Therefore, a Muay Thai stance trades off punching power and a lot of defensive capabilities for a more full-range of attacks (kicks, knees, punches, and elbows).

Conor has lots of advantages: age, size, punching power, stamina. However, Floyd is a master boxer and Conor is out of his element. Conor says that he will knockout Floyd within 4 rounds but nobody in 20 years has managed to do that so it will be interesting to see how he plans to do this but I don't think he has a chance.

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You're misinterpreting my post. I'm not saying he's going to fight in a muay thai stance the whole night, or any particular stance, for that matter. He's going to switch stances based on whatever the situation calls for, just to give him different looks. A muay thai stance would be useful for quick burst combos, and then returning to a more traditional boxing stance. He'll be in a traditional boxing stance for most of the fight, with different stances used based on the situation. An upright greco roman wrestling stance will give him an advantage in the clinch, where he has much more experience when it comes to battling for underhooks. Since he's the bigger guy, he can wear him down in the clinch and utilize a lot of dirty boxing (before the ref breaks it up.) The idea is to use all of these different looks to open up opportunities.

Going back to the Eddie Bravo vs Royler Gracie showdown, Eddie pulled off the huge upset by pulling out something never before seen - the rubber guard. It's something that confused even a legend and a 7th degree black belt. Bringing unpredictability to the table shouldn't be overlooked.

AzorianPats said:

Agreed.

If you want to watch a great all out fight, wait a couple of weeks and watch GGG-Canelo.

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That should be a good matchup. The recent Ward - Kovalev 2 was a superb fight and easy to find on YouTube.

I'm honestly only looking forward to watching Vasili Lomachenko's next fight against whoever that might be. This guy might be the best pound for pound today and he's only had a handful of pro fights - amazing boxer.

Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier is a more intriguing and important match up than both of those combined or anything else boxing has to offer. You've got a great rivalry that's 2+ years in the making, they both legitimateky hate one another (and its not just for show like McGregor/Mayweather) and it's a fight with both of their legacy on the line. Jon Jones could go down as the best ever, and DC is far better than any other light heavyweight not named Jon Jones, but has an opportunity to enter the GOAT conversation if he wins.

FourierSeries said:

You're misinterpreting my post. I'm not saying he's going to fight in a muay thai stance the whole night, or any particular stance, for that matter. He's going to switch stances based on whatever the situation calls for, just to give him different looks. A muay thai stance would be useful for quick burst combos, and then returning to a more traditional boxing stance. He'll be in a traditional boxing stance for most of the fight, with different stances used based on the situation. An upright greco roman wrestling stance will give him an advantage in the clinch, where he has much more experience when it comes to battling for underhooks. Since he's the bigger guy, he can wear him down in the clinch and utilize a lot of dirty boxing (before the ref breaks it up.) The idea is to use all of these different looks to open up opportunities.

Going back to the Eddie Bravo vs Royler Gracie showdown, Eddie pulled off the huge upset by pulling out something never before seen - the rubber guard. It's something that confused even a legend and a 7th degree black belt. Bringing unpredictability to the table shouldn't be overlooked.

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The fact that you are talking about using a Muay Thai stance to deliver "quick burst combos" tells me you have no idea how Muay Thai functions. A Muay Thai stance would limit your boxing defense, limit your feet mobility, limit your ability to level change, and take power away from your rear punching hand. How is that a good idea in a boxing match?

I dont know much about Greco Roman wrestling, but I trained Muay Thai for several years on the same team as Gilbert Melendez where I faught several amateurs. Your theory lacks understanding of martial arts beyond that of a casual fan and the more detailed you try to get, the more clear this is.