Butler & Saints working towards finalizing a deal (Thread now UFC Pats Fans Event)

KontradictioN said:

This thread is absolute comedy gold. Between the overweight former high school alpha males in here messaging their inferiority complex via living vicariously through their successful favorite football team and the insults flying back the forth, this bad boy is an instant classic.

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Okay. But how is it different from many other threads on here?

PatriotDynasty99 said:

Great. Hope NO signs him. Pats get pick #11 and get get a young, elite CB. Works for both parties

Anything other than that? BB has lost his mind to NOT take what NO is obligated to give up.

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NO is no more obligated to give the #11 than you are obligated to pay sticker for a car.

Fanfrom1960 said:

Thanks a billion for the interception, but he's still shooting his way out of town, IMO.

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No. He hasn't spoken an ill word about the organization. Yes he wants out but he hasn't been nasty and disrespectful about it.

The only disrespect I see anywhere in this situation is from Patriots fans trying to diminish Butler's ability.

KontradictioN said:

This thread is absolute comedy gold. Between the overweight former high school alpha males in here messaging their inferiority complex via living vicariously through their successful favorite football team and the insults flying back the forth, this bad boy is an instant classic.

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You're welcome.

Assuming this all plays out...

Malcolm Butler made the greatest sports moment of my life. I'll forever root for that guy and appreciate his tenacity and effort as a player. Wish he could have stayed but these things happen in sports sometimes.

I wish him luck and hope he helps to transform the NO D back into winners.

I agree with the sentiment that Butler is untouchable when it comes to shading a former player.

Kdo5 said:

No. He hasn't spoken an ill word about the organization. Yes he wants out but he hasn't been nasty and disrespectful about it.

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Maybe wrong phrase to use, but he is going around the system intended for a restricted free agent. So he got his feelings hurt by Gilmore getting the big contract. Take your 3.91 million and get paid next year.

Keyser Söze said:

If we had to pay either Gilmore or Butler I think BB made the right choice. Gilmore is a better CB

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While I agree that Gilmore is the better talent with a higher upside, this is something we will likely be debating for awhile.

I certainly trust the talent evaluators that we have in the organization, and ultimately, Bill Belichick. Butler had a lot of heart and grit, though.

supafly said:

While I agree that Gilmore is the better talent with a higher upside, this is something we will likely be debating for awhile.

I certainly trust the talent evaluators that we have in the organization, and ultimately, Bill Belichick. Butler had a lot of heart and grit, though.

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I will root for the guy next year if he goes to new orleans except when we face them. He's a hard worker and i hope he does well. I think he's worth more than that 32 but it seem's like this was a wink wink deal from the start.

Fanfrom1960 said:

Maybe wrong phrase to use, but he is going around the system intended for a restricted free agent. So he got his feelings hurt by Gilmore getting the big contract. Take your 3.91 million and get paid next year.

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He really isn't, this is the system. This is why restricted free agency exists at all. And it's a two-way street; this would all be an exercise in futility if the Pats weren't interested in trading him, but by all accounts they are.

Fanfrom1960 said:

Maybe wrong phrase to use, but he is going around the system intended for a restricted free agent. So he got his feelings hurt by Gilmore getting the big contract. Take your 3.91 million and get paid next year.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the system intended for a restricted free agent was the ability to shop his services around to another team for a higher, long-term contract? Just because it's rare for teams to take the player up on it doesn't mean that isn't what the system is. The Pats have had decent success with that system themselves with Welker and Hogan.

BadMoFo said:

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Which probably means someone is asking for the moon.

Remember Gilmore had a different coach every year on the Bills and ...its the Bils.... Butler played in the most successful and disciplined system not only in the NFL but probably up there in the history of the NFL. Matt Patricia has a superb football mind and Josh Boyer is a great CB coach who has been with the team for 10 years and knows the system.

Its a big part of why this team is so successful.

KontradictioN said:

This thread is absolute comedy gold. Between the overweight former high school alpha males in here messaging their inferiority complex via living vicariously through their successful favorite football team and the insults flying back the forth, this bad boy is an instant classic.

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**** you.. Nerd..

QuantumMechanic said:

NO is no more obligated to give the #11 than you are obligated to pay sticker for a car.

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True, plus it isn't clear to me that NE would get the No. 11 or 32 pick. Nothing I've read in the CBA mandates that the prior club get the higher pick if the new club has more than one pick i nthe round.

Bruins29 said:

Josh Boyer is a great CB coach who has been with the team for 10 years and knows the system.

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There has to be someone here from the class of 2011 who gets triggered by that. Come on guys..

luuked said:

There has to be someone here from the class of 2011 who gets triggered by that. Come on guys..

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Boyer has done a good job. He moved strictly to CB a few years ago. Its not his fault he was given nothing to work with back then.

Bruins29 said:

Boyer has done a good job. He moved strictly to CB a few years ago. Its not his fault he was given nothing to work with back then.

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Oh I am not disagreeing at all.. just here for the idiocy that could be summoned by saying it out loud