Lawrence Guy signed - DL/DE checked!

I'm fine with this

6'4" 300 ain't no DE on this team.

Ivan said:

I think it's because of the cap explosion and the fact that this market is very different than it was when most teams were up against the cap. In that market the Patriots would let other teams blow their extra cash and then move in and get the mid tier players who were left when other teams no longer had the space to sign them. In this market they have to be aggressive because most teams still have plenty of money to sign players and the first to get to them wins.

Still waiting on Hightower though, that's the really big one.

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I do recall making a thread saying this is the year to spend and do a lot of long term contracts cause the cap will reliably be going up over the next 3-4 years.

I think the Pats factored that in and that is why they are being so aggressive now. My other guess is they will not be nearly as active in the next few years and go back to their usually very value based approach.

And these are the guys Pats can go for in the draft now..

Ivan said:

300 lbs, big assed DE

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Oh! I thought he was a punter! Makes sense now.

Ivan said:

I think it's because of the cap explosion and the fact that this market is very different than it was when most teams were up against the cap. In that market the Patriots would let other teams blow their extra cash and then move in and get the mid tier players who were left when other teams no longer had the space to sign them. In this market they have to be aggressive because most teams still have plenty of money to sign players and the first to get to them wins.

Still waiting on Hightower though, that's the really big one.

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I'm not so sure on this end. IIRC weren't the Ratbirds forced to spend their DL money on Williams and Jernigan, and there simply wasn't enough there to give Guy the raise he earned. And then we swoop in with an offer they can't match because we STILL have so damned much cap space.

BTW- still have a big need for a speed edge guy and over 30MM to spend. who is out there left in FA who fits that discription. Who will be there in draft when we finally pick who can be developed OR (and you can tease me) who might be therer when we pick at #12.

The new Rutgers?

long distance said:

And these are the guys Pats can go for in the draft now..

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I am not going to even hope to get him unless he is out for the year.

DE: T. Flowers
K. Ealy

NG: A. Branch
V. Valentine

DT: M. Brown
L. Guy

Draft a DE in the 3rd or 4th
G. Grissom as the 4th DE
Can W. Hamilton go on the P Squad again??

Not a bad D-Line situation.

Ivan said:

300 lbs, big assed DE

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I think the Pat's will use him as a tackle.

This smells exactly like the Fanene signing. Who knows what would have happened if not for his injury ordeal...either way, hope this works better than that.

hornetfb85 said:

DE: T. Flowers
K. Ealy

NG: A. Branch
V. Valentine

DT: M. Brown
L. Guy

Draft a DE in the 3rd or 4th
G. Grissom as the 4th DE
Can W. Hamilton go on the P Squad again??

Not a bad D-Line situation.

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Rob Ninkovich?

Would much rather have had Odrick but I guess they felt like Guy was the better value...

long distance said:

And these are the guys Pats can go for in the draft now..

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Mixon

manxman2601 said:

Rob Ninkovich?

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I personally feel (sadly) weather Nink is on or off this team he is an after thought at this point. I just don't think he has much left in the tank. I like the player but he is on his last legs. Either this year or last year were his last as a Patriots and I would guess it is 50/50.

The Pats can save 1-1.4M if they cut him (I am not sure). He is still fairly cheap at 2.4M for this year so not a big deal to keep or cut either way.

BobDigital said:

I personally feel (sadly) weather Nink is on r off this team he is an after thought at this point. I just don't think he has much left in the tank. I like the player but he is on his last legs. Either this year or last year were his last as a Patriots and I would guess it is 50/50.

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One last steady year please Rob.

PatriotReign said:

A little expensive for a run stuffer. If they went this route would have liked to look at Poe or Hankins.

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Poe and Hankins will cost much more than 5 million per.

Did Patriots overpay? 4/20M. His pay last season was roughly 1.25M.

Im convinced bill wants 19-0 with every signing

Does DeMarcus Ware have anything left? All this DL needs is a situational pass rusher off the edge. A QB hunter.