Browns number ONE pick for JAG??

If the browns where smart than they trade for jimmy. I would ask for number 12 and the 65th pick of the draft.

LT85 said:

I see what you're saying, but not finding a QB will also cost you your job as a GM. For me it's a no risk no reward situation.
If they don't get a massive haul for him, then I would rather keep him as a backup for another year just in case.

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I think this way about it sometimes... Unless I get super happy with the offer, then just keep him, see what happens? (Sometimes I think that anyway) Two "twos"? Nah, roll the dice and keep him just in case if that is the offer. Let the offer become nuts by being willing to keep him...

LT85 said:

If I'm the Bears and I believe Jimmy is a Franchise QB I'm selling the farm for him

- They already has a decent team and a fair amount of pieces in places. Unlike 49'ers who has a lot of work to do to put together a competitive team. Obviously they have holes to fill, but they are not what I would call a bad team.

- Jimmy is a local guy. That's good for PR. He is also - what shall we call it - marketable?

- He has no character concerns what so ever. He is soft spoken and I have never seen him say anything other that what you would want him to say, if you are a head coach of a NFL team

- Great skill set, shown he can play and win in the league, well schooled ect.

If I'm the bears I would send the no. 3. And I'd even add next years 1st rounder if that was what it would take.

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Cousin,
Bears make sense. I see multiple QB moves this year which serves the Pats well. 36% on the League might have a new QB.

The QB Needy Club:
Browns
49ers
Bears
Jets

Perhaps Needy Club:
Cardinals (Palmers age)
Bills (Taylor is a definite maybe)
Redskins (if Cousins walks)
Saints (Brees age)
Chargers (Rivers age)


The "Our QB is not going to get us there" Club:
Chiefs
Texans
Broncos

The "Did not see this one coming" Club:
Jaguars

Over 35% of the League could be looking QB for 2017. This helps the Pats. Plus limited QB talent in the Draft.

Available?
Cousins (I think he is franchised)
Kap (yeah right!)
Romo (Out of respect he will not go to the QB Needy Club)
Cutler
Tyrod (If he is not in the Bills plans)
Smith (would not be surprised if K.C says enough)
Bortles (if Tom C. sees no hope)
AJ McCarron
And Jimmy G.

Let's view the QB Needy Club possibilities. Follow the ball:

Browns? Jimmy G or a mediocre Class QB pick Maybe AJ McCarron...it's the Browns!

49ers? If Shanahan can pry Cousins (then the skins need a QB) and why not Jimmy G. in D.C?
If not Shanahan has to go Jimmy G. or Cutler (Dark horse: Trade with Jags for Bortles?) Then Tom C. needs a QB Romo? Jimmy G? Cutler?.....So perhaps Shanahan.... IF!!! he can trade for the Franchised Cousins and then the Skins go after Cutler. The Skins win with a top five pick and Gruden can work with a guy like Cutler.

Bears? Jimmy G. or Romo (Fox is on a banana peel and needs to win now...No rookie QB!!) Jimmy G makes sense. Perhaps Tyrod Taylor. The Bears and the Pats have a history of dealing together lately (Bennet) or taking on each others players(Hicks/McClellin/LeBlanc)

Jets? Doubt if BB does any more business with Johnson so no Jimmy G.
I see Cutler here? Maybe Taylor once more. Pats fans would love Kap here!

LONG SHOTS:
Jimmy G. to the Saints. He has one more year on the cheap to learn under Brees and as some talking head said he has also been viewed in joint practice by Sean Peyton for two years. Then the Saints can Franchise or sign him.

Jimmy G. to Texans. Again Jimmy G. is on the cheap and they can hold onto Brock and his salary for another year without having too many QB dollars on the roster. Might fetch a player like Watt....In dreams!!!......... or WR Hopkins who the Pats wanted last year and a pick.

REASONABLE SHOTS:
Romo to Broncos. The Team is getting older and Elway can't have another 2016.

AJ McCarron from the Bengals to reunite him with Hue Jackson on the Browns. AJ might bring a second but not as much as Jimmy G. The Browns keep their two number ones and Kevin Costner saves his job.


DW Toys

Garappolo has started a total of 2 NFL games and has more Super Bowl rings than Brees and Rogers. Has the same amount of rings as Manning. Surely that will boost his value.

If a team values Jimmy enough I see no reason why they wouldn't justify his current value as being equivalent to the first overall pick.

FreeTedWilliams said:

#1

He would easily be the best QB in the draft right now.

Not that I think Cleveland would trade #1 for him. But with the skills he has shown in the NFL and if he was somehow in this draft, he would easily be the #1 pick.

If the Pats can get #12 for Jimmy, I would say take it and run.....

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archstanton543 said:

It'll never happen. Next question.

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Really? You're gonna go with "It'll never happen" after SBLI? Anything is possible.

I'd like to see the Pats get the Bears #1 and Akiem Hicks for Mr. Garoppolo.

resdubwhite said:

Straight up question.
Jimmy G with his skillset right now.
where would he be realistically drafted if entering the draft?

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This year? Top half of the first round certainly. He's better than any of the jamokes coming out this year.

resdubwhite said:

Straight up question.
Jimmy G with his skillset right now.
where would he be realistically drafted if entering the draft?

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IMO it's sort of an unanswerable question, because training and experience is a huge part of Jimmy's "skillset." 3 years in the ultimate QB training academy matters -- and there's really nothing you can show playing for Eastern Illinois against SE Missouri State that compares with skills you've demonstrated against an NFL defense.

They should get a haul for Jimmy G. If you feel he is your future, then you pay. And you pay big. And you avoid losing him in to somehere else in FA. If he's not then don't pay anything.

Can you imagine what BB would do with the number one pick? My god. He'd come out with 8 first rounders spread over 3 years. Or something stupid like that.

The bidding war - I hope - makes JG a "MUST get". We are in for some fun times. And after winning the SB, our moods are already trending upward.

FrodoBagginz said:

Garappolo has started a total of 2 NFL games and has more Super Bowl rings than Brees and Rogers. Has the same amount of rings as Manning. Surely that will boost his value.

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Good point, even though he was not the starter, that counts. Acclimated to the big stage, in a winning organization, and was present in the locker room when BB and the Coordinators orchestrated the biggest comeback of all times. That's valuable experience right there.

I'm not sure if this is considered a strong draft or not, I do know it's not a strong draft for quarterbacks but for the 1st pick, I don't
think that's going to happen. Possibly their 2nd number one pick and a 3rd or 4th rounder. Just not sure the Pats would do it.
Nothing is impossible, didn't the Vikings trade a number 1 last year for Bradford? I think Jimmy G is more valuable for Bradford.

It's all about timing.

Poor incoming QB class.

Many QB needy teams who have interest in JAG.

This is a VERY good thing.

JAG contract is beneficial to a team like the Texans due to not having to pay him and a no brainier for the 49ers, Browns as they have a ton of space.

ashley1992 said:

I'm not sure if this is considered a strong draft or not, I do know it's not a strong draft for quarterbacks but for the 1st pick, I don't
think that's going to happen. Possibly their 2nd number one pick and a 3rd or 4th rounder. Just not sure the Pats would do it.
Nothing is impossible, didn't the Vikings trade a number 1 last year for Bradford? I think Jimmy G is more valuable for Bradford.

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Bradford got a first and a later pick from Minny. My point is if you feel that strongly that Jimmy G is your QB, then the first overall is worth giving up. I personally don't feel this is a very strong draft. I don't see a Bosa, Miller, Julio Jones, Zeke type top of the draft.

And zero QBs near Jimmy's level.

I hope they do not entertain any offers less than the value of a top 15 first rounder. A second rounder for who is likely for us the very best backup QB in the league on the cheap makes no sense. Especially when the GOAT will be 40 y/o.

hodgey said:

I hope they do not entertain any offers less than the value of a top 15 first rounder. A second rounder for who is likely for us the very best backup QB in the league on the cheap makes no sense. Especially when the GOAT will be 40 y/o.

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would we not get a second rounder back anyway if JimmyG left in free agency. We may as well keep him if we dont get offered at least a 1st. Im in the camp that says he would be moat valueable player in the draft.. so one overall is his value.

Unpopular opinion, but I really don't think there's enough tape on Garoppolo to say he's more talented than any QB in this draft, which is why Bradford is not an apt comparison, and teams are going to fall in love with their guy in the draft.

The one year on the rookie deal thing matters. Consider that the Seahawks basically had to let their offensive line collapse in order to sign Russell Wilson, for instance.

patchick said:

IMO it's sort of an unanswerable question, because training and experience is a huge part of Jimmy's "skillset." 3 years in the ultimate QB training academy matters -- and there's really nothing you can show playing for Eastern Illinois against SE Missouri State that compares with skills you've demonstrated against an NFL defense.

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Doesn't that make it more answerable. Guy has shown he can learn at an NFL franchise and is still in his mid twenties. Is he set for the next 10 years? certainly has a leg up on any rookie

Big Bucks said:

would we not get a second rounder back anyway if JimmyG left in free agency. We may as well keep him if we dont get offered at least a 1st. Im in the camp that says he would be moat valueable player in the draft.. so one overall is his value.

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The third round is the highest for a compensatory pick. And it's not guaranteed as they can be cancelled out by signing another free agent.

They won't trade 1 but i'd trade him for 12 anyway.