Hogan bobbling passes

PatriotsReign · Jan 29, 2017

I'm bored too....where's Fencer?!

PatsWickedPissah · Jan 29, 2017

mosslost said:
I have watched the AFCCG over and over all week. Two things struck me about Hogan over and over..

1. Why was he mostly wide open? Was that our O Scheme, their D scheme?

2. He bobbles his catches frequently when wide open, In close coverage those get dislodged but good D.

Anyway I am bored waiting for the SB so I though I would throw this out there.

Sound FX

Explains how the wide open plays worked

PLUS, Crazy Eyes 7 eleven has been working extra time with the Jugs machine since the AFCCG

Mr. Plow · Jan 29, 2017

The bobbling (is that a word?) phenomenon might be caused by the footballs being massively over-inflated by the game officials to the point where they feel as though they are filled with concrete.

Or maybe not. I don't know. One week and three hours to go...

New England Pride · Jan 29, 2017

He was a college lacrosse player. In short, his hands really aren't that great. With that being said, he's done a great job all year long and I trust him to make plays when the ball comes his way next week.

LightSkinSmurf · Jan 29, 2017

I called this out in another thread. Lucky for us he was so wide open on every play. Let's hope he tightens up in the SB.

JMC00 · Jan 29, 2017

mosslost said:
I have watched the AFCCG over and over all week

mosslost said:
He bobbles his catches frequently when wide open

So you came to your conclusion because of one game?

Because he didn't bobble the one against the ****birds, he didn't bobble his TD against the jills and he didn't bobble his deep catches against the Browns and those are only four I know off the top of my head.

JMC00 · Jan 29, 2017

LightSkinSmurf said:
I called this out in another thread. Lucky for us he was so wide open on every play. Let's hope he tightens up in the SB.

Tightens up what? This thread is garbage, Hogan didn't have any issues all year long when he lead the league in average per reception. He had 1 game in a cold/wet environment where he had a slight issue.

Fixit · Jan 29, 2017

JMC00 said:
Tightens up what? This thread is garbage, Hogan didn't have any issues all year long when he lead the league in average per reception. He had 1 game in a cold/wet environment where he had a slight issue.

Eyeball test!!!

BradyFTW! · Jan 29, 2017

I think the crazy thing here is that he's still learning some of the finer points of the position. He hasn't been a WR for that long yet, same with Edelman really. Which makes me hopeful that there may be room for improvement, because it certainly isn't a strength in either of their games. I agree with the original poster here that Hogan seems to have some issues with making clean catches, but it hasn't burned us in a major way yet and I hope that remains the case through Sunday.

Galeb · Jan 29, 2017

bradydaman29 said:
I noticed the bobbling as well and the first thing I thought of is I wonder if he has small hands.

Does he smell like cabbage?

Jackson 2 · Jan 29, 2017

mosslost said:
I have watched the AFCCG over and over all week. Two things struck me about Hogan over and over..

1. Why was he mostly wide open? Was that our O Scheme, their D scheme?

2. He bobbles his catches frequently when wide open, In close coverage those get dislodged but good D.

Anyway I am bored waiting for the SB so I though I would throw this out there.

Jesus H. Christ, that's some weak f###### sauce. Yeah, I'm worried to death about Hogan bobbling the ball.

Schmo · Jan 29, 2017

New England Pride said:
He was a college lacrosse player. In short, his hands really aren't that great. With that being said, he's done a great job all year long and I trust him to make plays when the ball comes his way next week.

On the contrary, I would think lacrosse would train you to have VERY soft hands, but he's definitely been bobbling. Along with the agility, physical toughness and hand-eye coordination required to play the sport, I could see how a lacrosse player would make a good WR if he's fast enough.

I've been noticing how so many receivers in the league can't catch the ball cleanly. It's one of the biggest things that separates the elite wrs from good wrs.

woolster22 · Jan 29, 2017

Schmo said:
On the contrary, I would think lacrosse would train you to have VERY soft hands, but he's definitely been bobbling. Along with the agility, physical toughness and hand-eye coordination required to play the sport, I could see how a lacrosse player would make a good WR if he's fast enough.

I've been noticing how so many receivers in the league can't catch the ball cleanly. It's one of the biggest things that separates the elite wrs from good wrs.

It's a different kind of "soft hands," but assuming hand size/grip strength is there it should translate.

LightSkinSmurf · Jan 29, 2017

JMC00 said:
Tightens up what? This thread is garbage, Hogan didn't have any issues all year long when he lead the league in average per reception. He had 1 game in a cold/wet environment where he had a slight issue.

With bobbling the ball. Nobody is saying hogan sucks, relax.

ViperGTS · Jan 29, 2017

PatsBoy12 said:
I only noticed Hogan double catching in the AGCCG, and it was many of his catches indeed. But it isn't something that I ever noticed in the regular season. So I'll chalk it up to it being wet (you can't really see the rain on camera, but it as steadily falling) and the fact that I do believe he may have been surprised by how open he was a few times. Game plan or not, I don't think you expect to be that open that many times in the AFCCG. Who does that? Oh wait, the Steelers do EVERY TIME THEY PLAY THE PATRIOTS.

Also, Brady was zipping those passes as if he was throwing into right coverage. That arm liked super strong. Let's just hope we don't see that in the perfect conditions in HOU a week from today.

The first completion from that game by TB12 gets picked off if thrown by any other QB. Even Rodgers. It was a laser.

irishfanatic · Jan 29, 2017

I have thought long and hard about the content of this thread and after lengthy deliberation I say, Cut him b4 the SB. I mean if a receiver makes 9 receptions for 180 yards and two touchdowns in the AFCCG, what other option do you have.
Apologies in advance for my sarcasm.

If the period between the AFCCG and the SB was any longer than 2 weeks only **** knows what type of Threads would be appearing here.

BTW: WE are one spoilt Fan base.

GO PATS

PatsBoy12 · Jan 29, 2017

ViperGTS said:
The first completion from that game by TB12 gets picked off if thrown by any other QB. Even Rodgers. It was a laser.

Brady was zinging them all over for sure. It was incredible to watch.

PatsBoy12 · Jan 29, 2017

BradyFTW! said:
I think the crazy thing here is that he's still learning some of the finer points of the position. He hasn't been a WR for that long yet, same with Edelman really. Which makes me hopeful that there may be room for improvement, because it certainly isn't a strength in either of their games. I agree with the original poster here that Hogan seems to have some issues with making clean catches, but it hasn't burned us in a major way yet and I hope that remains the case through Sunday.

Interestingly, how can NE repeatedly turn non- receivers into solid to damn near great NFL receivers, even corners, but can't develop a draftee to save their lives? The jury is still out on Mitchell, but he thankfully looks damn promising.

Gumby · Jan 29, 2017

The one thing no one mentioned about the bobbled balls, was (if I saw right) he was catching them with his body-supposedly a no-no for receivers-and not just his hands.

Particularly the first TD he caught off his right-front shoulderpad. So that maybe something he was either doing different that day, or that the wet conditions caused body cstches to be a little tougher, (so you didnt see the issue with that same technique failure in earlier dry games).

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