Giardi: Garoppolo "extremely disappointed" he couldn't play Sunday

BlueThunder said:

Great ?? Based on 6 qtrs???

He looked good.....over 16 games, who knows.....

He looks to be a starting caliber NFL QB...but GREAT ??????

If he ends up on another team, I'm sure we will be rooting for him unless he's playing for us ( or ends up a Jet)

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Exactly. Matt Cassel looked like a legitimate starter after filling in for Brady in 2008. Looked how that turned out.

fair catch fryar said:

Exactly. Matt Cassel looked like a legitimate starter after filling in for Brady in 2008. Looked how that turned out.

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• He never looked like JG.

AndyJohnson said:

On the other hand even with less arm strength he couldn't have really done worse than a shut out.

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I think you are (intentionally?) missing the most obvious reason for not risking it which is not making his condition even worse. He could have aggravated this issue and landed on IR instead of being a proven backup in case Brady is out for a game or two.

NYPatsFan said:

The PATRIOTS expected him to be good to go. The video is only their to support the Patriots belief that he was going to start yesterday.

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So you got nothing and are just doing the same baseless speculation that Felger and his morons spew around. Gotcha.

NYPatsFan said:

I never presented anything as fact. It's all my opinion and since none of us on this board know the truth, my opinion is as valid as yours until actual facts are presented by the team or uncovered by journalists.

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The facts available as of now contradict your storyline, but since that isn't going to stop you from working yourself up over nothing, I'll remove myself from this discussion. Have at it..

And when you keep stating that the team expected Jimmy to play, and basing the rest of your "opinion" off of that, you are presenting it as fact. Just a heads up.

bostonbuzz said:

Anyone who's played organized team sports on any level knows that any team no matter how good is capable of producing a 'turd' like the Pat's produced yesterday. It happens. Moving on to Cleveland.

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Steelers vs. Eagles Week 3
Steelers vs. Chiefs Week 4

luuked said:

I think you are (intentionally?) missing the most obvious reason for not risking it which is not making his condition even worse. He could have aggravated this issue and landed on IR instead of being a proven backup in case Brady is out for a game or two.

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I don't know how that could be obvious.
I've never seen Belichick take the approach that I am not going to play someone who is able to play because I don't want them to get hurt. Further, I'm not sure why you would start your 3rd stringer in an actual game because starting your second stringer might mean that you have to start the 3rd stringer in the future in the event both the starter and backup are injured.

The argument would amount to this:

I have a division game today. We are 3-0 they are 1-2.
If we win today, we bury the entire division 2 games behind us.
If we lose we only have a 1 game lead, and lose the tiebreaker, even worse with a home loss.
Jimmy G has played great and can run the entire offense.
Brissett is raw, and we can trust him to run the entire offense.

If I play Jimmy G we have a better chance to win, but if he gets hurt and then Brady gets hurt there is a longshot chance that I may have to play Brissett in a future game that more likely than not, wouldn't be be against a division opponent who can get within one game of us.

So I'm going to play Brissett in order to reduce the chance that I have to play Brissett.

fair catch fryar said:

Exactly. Matt Cassel looked like a legitimate starter after filling in for Brady in 2008. Looked how that turned out.

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Matt Cassel was a legitimate, near Pro Bowl, starter in 2010.

mikey m said:

The facts available as of now contradict your storyline, but since that isn't going to stop you from working yourself up over nothing, I'll remove myself from this discussion. Have at it..

And when you keep stating that the team expected Jimmy to play, and basing the rest of your "opinion" off of that, you are presenting it as fact. Just a heads up.

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Yeah. I'm pretty much gone from this thread.

fair catch fryar said:

Exactly. Matt Cassel looked like a legitimate starter after filling in for Brady in 2008. Looked how that turned out.

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Scott Pioli f—ked up by bringing in a HC who didn't want Pioli's QB. And then when Pioli brought in an OC who could bring out the best in Cassel, Haley chased him out of town.

rochrist said:

• He never looked like JG.

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Well, he did near the end of the season.

AndyJohnson said:

So I'm going to play Brissett in order to reduce the chance that I have to play Brissett.

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While that sounds "ha-ha," the actual version of that statement is:

So I'm going to play Brissett today to reduce the chance that I (might) have to play Brissett in January.

ctpatsfan77 said:

While that sounds "ha-ha," the actual version of that statement is:

So I'm going to play Brissett today to reduce the chance that I (might) have to play Brissett in January.

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if both of my QBs are injured then

ctpatsfan77 said:

While that sounds "ha-ha," the actual version of that statement is:

So I'm going to play Brissett today to reduce the chance that I (might) have to play Brissett in January.

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And if I win today, I have a better chance of being alive in January.

NYPatsFan said:

The Patriots expected him to play. Garoppolo didn't play. It sounds like it was 100% Garoppolo's decision to not play. These statements to Giardi smell like spin and PR.

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Giardi clearly becoming the Garopolo camp's media mouthpiece...

I find it hard to believe that anybody thinks that Jimmy was able to play and that either he or the Pats stopped him from doing so. By all indications, he just didn't have enough zip on his passes. It had nothing to do with his toughness or pain threshold or whatever. Players want to play, especially ones who have a chance to prove themselves to their team or potential new team.

robertweathers said:

I have no doubt that Jimmy and the trainers did everything they could to play yesterday. I refuse to question his pain tolerance or any of that nonsense.

What I do wonder is why the "rumors" on Jimmy's health were non-stop for two weeks while for Tom we didn't hear a peep about anything for 15 years.

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Brady played with a similar or more severe ac injury on multiple occasions, specifically 2009, where there were reports (sure, don't believe them if you don't want to) indicating had the Pats beaten Baltimore he would not have been able to play the following week...remember, he was hit hard to the turf by Hayneworth in the final game of the 09 preseason

So ,it takes one game played terribly by the ENTIRE team and COACHES to find a scapegoat in a injured player ?. I think if brady doesnt play well for the next 2 games because of being rusty, people on this board will turn on him as well immediately asking if Jimmy should play.

NYPatsFan said:

Are you telling me he couldn't execute a short to intermediate passing game on Sunday while handing off to Blount more than 20 times? He looked decent on Sept. 28.

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Given what Ryan the bloviator said about coming after the qb, whoever it was, maybe the Pats were just protecting their investment.

IllegalContact said:

baseless statement

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Yup, totally baseless to confidently state that the GOAT QB would significantly outproduce an injured third string rookie making his second career start. That's definitely taking things too far; the only reasonable assumption that can be made is that Brady's a JAG who doesn't make the offense better by playing. I mean, you said he wouldn't have made a difference, so the only alternative is that you know nothing about anything relating to football and have no idea what you're talking about as usual. And surely that can't be it, so yeah, let's go with "Brady clearly wouldn't have made a difference, because really what's the difference between Tom Brady and Jacoby Brissett anyway".