Greg Bedard says Edelman return for early playoffs not a lock

JMC00 said:

Apparently was at the Boston tree lighting last night and was walking around on the injured foot pretty good.

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Any boot? Cast?

Since neither the Patriots nor JE11 are talking, anything on Edelcritter's recovery is speculation. I do think though the Patriots must be (and will be) prepared to go on without him. The reason he remained on the free agent market as long as he did prior to the 2014 season was a foot injury that was slow to heal. The recovery from this type of injury that includes surgery and pins being inserted is always an iffy proposition at best. Really, really hope he's there but don't think we can count on it.

TommyBrady12 said:

we won't get to the superbowl without him.

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Why is that?

The Patriots can beat any team that will be in this season's playoffs. If they get Collins, Amendola, Hightower, and Gronkowski back they will be in good enough shape to get it done.

We seem to be reaching consensus about the fact that the original forecast should be trusted until legitimate new information is found.

Mack Herron said:

There have been multiple posts on this which offers no news on JE11. There is a wide range of times for return to play from a Jones fracture by NFL WRs and 6-8 weeks is on the low end of the range. In addition, recovery of full use takes even longer. So it is reasonable to expect him back, but bones heal gradually and nobody can predict how his foot will feel (running and, more importantly, planting and cutting) at any particular future time. Bringing in new WRs this week could well be at least partly in recognition of this contingency.

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Deus Irae said:

Bedard's correct. This was talked about when the diagnosis was first given. It could be 6-8 weeks, if there are no complications. It could be months if the bone doesn't heal. There's also a range in between.
Nothing to see here.

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luuked said:

It is one of those classic carefully worded speculative pieces that have zero value.
He might return, he might not.. we don't know.. but it is not a lock.
Great insight..

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PatsDeb said:

My sentiments exactly. I could have told you Edelman being back this year is not a lock and I know as much as Bedard. He's just stating the (painfully) obvious (no pun intended).

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aluminum seats said:

Exactly. The dude's not IR'd, so the team's hoping to get him back. That's about the end of the conversation for now (and until the playoffs, or maybe possibly week 17).

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fair catch fryar said:

In all seriousness, no one really knows how fast he will heal with injuries like that. There's a timetable give or take a few weeks on either end so Bedard is pretty much reporting the same **** most everyone else with 1/2 a brain already knows. Nothing new there.

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Ice_Ice_Brady said:

Unless there was a major problem, I don't think there is any more information available to anyone, including Edelman and his surgeon, then there was pre-surgery. It's only been a couple of weeks.

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Zeus said:

Since neither the Patriots nor JE11 are talking, anything on Edelcritter's recovery is speculation. I do think though the Patriots must be (and will be) prepared to go on without him. The reason he remained on the free agent market as long as he did prior to the 2014 season was a foot injury that was slow to heal. The recovery from this type of injury that includes surgery and pins being inserted is always an iffy proposition at best. Really, really hope he's there but don't think we can count on it.

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betterthanthealternative said:

We seem to be reaching consensus about the fact that the original forecast should be trusted until legitimate new information is found.

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I think that is fair to assume at this point because Bedard certainly didn't pose this as new information. Nothing was mentioned about progress, setback, etc. I'd think he would want tweet/publish something with actual information, and I also suspect other beat writers would be all over it as well. This is a national story due to it being the Patriots. Beat writers live and breath and scoops like this. It sounds like he was merely making a point, which was then magnified.

Sure, we could all be wrong, but it is just unlikely based on the context, and I don't think this is just homerism/wishful thinking.

SUGGESTION:

I don't use Twitter or have an account, but if someone is active on Twitter, why not just tweet to Greg Bedard and ask him if he was just making a point based on the original diagnosis or if had an update on Edelman's progress. Would be greatly appreciated!

No one really knows for sure but the smart money puts him being ready for playoff game 1 judging by how these injuries have generally gone in the past.

However IMO the Pats have proven to me assuming health of other players (Gronk, Amendola, Collins, Hightower) they don't need Edelman to beat anyone in the AFC.

The Pats D when healthy is legit and the offense with Gronk, Amendola, LaFell and whoever else you can put out there will manage to score enough to win with that D.

I am not saying sit a reasonably healthy Edelman but if you are on the fence and everyone else is pretty healthy I feel confident enough not to push him for the likes of the Broncos or Bengals or Steelers. They are not bad teams but the Pats should beat them with those players particularly if we play in our house.

Edit: One side note. For a playoff game I have no issue activating Edelman if you are 50-50 about him and benching him for the game. If you feel you need to put him in you can but if these games go like i think they will in the cases I laid out I don't think you have to. BB doesn't like to do this though.

The Pats offensive line is being exposed, I wouldn't be so confident, I trust this offense with the 4 guys who scored a touchdown in the last SB are on the field, you take away one and there is a huge gap, we don't have any quality depth. The Steelers have a high octane offense and the Bengals are solid this year. I can see a close game with either of those teams even in Foxboro.

the problem with a jones fracture is that there is very little blood flow in that area

TommyBrady12 said:

the problem with a jones fracture is that there is very little blood flow in that area

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True, but in spite of that the majority of people with that fracture take 6-8 weeks to heal. Someone posted an in-depth article about the injury a little while back. I think it was something like 75% or more are okay within 6-8 weeks; the rest typically take much longer to heal. As you stated, lack of blood flow is the most common complication to normal healing, but the recovery average takes that into account. If Edelman does not recover for the postseason, it's probably because a lack of blood flow; nothing to do with rehab. In other words, he doesn't have a choice in the matter. Rehabbing harder or being "a warrior" is irrelevant.

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

SUGGESTION:

I don't use Twitter or have an account, but if someone is active on Twitter, why not just tweet to Greg Bedard and ask him if he was just making a point based on the original diagnosis or if had an update on Edelman's progress. Would be greatly appreciated!

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Perhaps myface would work?

Ice_Ice_Brady said:

SUGGESTION:

I don't use Twitter or have an account, but if someone is active on Twitter, why not just tweet to Greg Bedard and ask him if he was just making a point based on the original diagnosis or if had an update on Edelman's progress. Would be greatly appreciated!

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Bedard said on Squeaky and the Douche that he was told that by a football writer from USA Today. To my knowledge, that individual is the only source who has publicly reported that Edelman's healing progress has been slower than originally expected.

I think it is funny that many on the radio are taking this information as an almost definite that Edelman won't return. Many people are already writing him off. Or if he is back, he will definitely be a shell of himself.

Sure he may not make it back and might not be what he was if he did during the playoffs, but that isn't a certainty either.

I have heard the Greg Bedard clip. He doesn't speak with certainty and he says that he doesn't know if the guy from USA Today who told him that had any inside info or just speculating on the estimates of returning. But the odds are good, not great, that he will be back and it is unknown how close to 100% he will be by the time the Pats play their first playoff game.

robertweathers said:

Any boot? Cast?

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No boot nor cast. I saw him walk out without a limp. Only picture I could find was on Edelman's Instagram page:

bresna said:

No boot nor cast. I saw him walk out without a limp. Only picture I could find was on Edelman's Instagram page:

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That's not a Edelman. It's an imposter. This suggests that he is seemingly doing OK. Since it doesn't fit the latest, popular narrative you must remove it immediately.

TommyBrady12 said:

the problem with a jones fracture is that there is very little blood flow in that area

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It's Edelman who's got the broken bone in the foot, not Chandler or Chris!
Try to Keep Up!!!

Oh, wait...
Never mind.

TommyBrady12 said:

the problem with a jones fracture is that there is very little blood flow in that area

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No worries, avocado ice cream makes up for that — Tommy had a case delivered to Edelperson's freezer.

VectorPrime said:

He knows nothing.

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It's really true. He's jumped the shark, though he's still better than Volin.

Jackson 2 said:

That's not a Edelman. It's an imposter. This suggests that he is seemingly doing OK. Since it doesn't fit the latest, popular narrative you must remove it immediately.

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I've read this thread twice and see no evidence of a narrative that he's not doing OK.

TommyBrady12 said:

the problem with a jones fracture is that there is very little blood flow in that area

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A hooker with foot fetish can solve that. Dont let Roger to be aware though #hookergate