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No Maroney, no problem. The only running plays in the playbook call for a QB Kneeling at the end of the game!

Brady will attempt 700+ passes!

You know, I was thinking the same thing. With the receivers we have, why even bother to run the ball? I'll bet we see a lot of draw plays this year.
 
Players that weren't in attendance.

WR Chad Jackson
CB Asante Samuel
S Mel Mitchell
CB Eddie Jackson
CB Antwain Spann
S James Sanders
S Brandon Meriweather
RB Laurence Maroney
LB Eric Alexander
TE David Thomas
DL Richard Seymour
 
If nothing else having Moss for the red zone seems like it will pay off. My guess is that the WRs are going to pick up a bunch of RZ TDs that Dillon used to get.
 
Dear Mel (Mitchell):

You can't make the club when you're in the tub.

Bill Bellichick
 
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At some point, I imagine we'll see Wilson do some work at corner as they had him doing pre-season last year - but at the very least, this is the first indication that the idea of a potential Wilson-Hobbs at CB and Merriweather-Harrison at S seem off-base. I, for one, was thinking that'd be a possible solution to the Asante situation...but I know one could argue you're taking a huge risk of making yourself weaker in two positions if things don't pan out perfectly.


Agreed. It's early, and remember he ended up taking a lot of reps at corner last year yearly on.
 
Dear Seymour..

Get to practice, you werent that good last year...

Belioli
 
Dear Seymour..

Get to practice, you werent that good last year...

Belioli

Dear The Seymonsta...

Seymour was injured last year. Had both an elbow and knee injury.

He is one of our best leaders and a hard worker.

If he could be at that mini-camp he would.

zippo59
 
Dear The Seymonsta...

Seymour was injured last year. Had both an elbow and knee injury.

He is one of our best leaders and a hard worker.

If he could be at that mini-camp he would.

zippo59


He is my favorite player but was a huge disappointment to me. I dont think he gave his all. It looks to me like he got his pay-day and now is happy.

I could be wrong and hope I am but I did not see the fire or effort from him last year especially in the AFCCG....
 
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..but I know one could argue you're taking a huge risk of making yourself weaker in two positions if things don't pan out perfectly.
Exactly. We have backups who are supposed to step in. Well, it's time.
 
Dear fellow Patriots fans,

Why are you getting your panties in a bunch because an established veteran (or four) does not participate in a friggin mini camp?

Regrads,

Nut
 
The three PUP candidates were among the misssing: the Jacksons and Troy Brown (not signed).

Players that weren't in attendance.

WR Chad Jackson
CB Asante Samuel
S Mel Mitchell
CB Eddie Jackson
CB Antwain Spann
S James Sanders
S Brandon Meriweather
RB Laurence Maroney
LB Eric Alexander
TE David Thomas
DL Richard Seymour
 
Dear fellow Patriots fans,

Why are you getting your panties in a bunch because an established veteran (or four) does not participate in a friggin mini camp?

Regrads,

Nut


Because this is how players get better and improve. Last I checked the players on that list did not have great years last year.

If you are not injured you should be participating, mini camp or not.

If Brady is there, the team should be there.
 
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/patriots/?p=1244

June 5th, 2007
Practice wrap
Posted by Albert Breer at 3:47 pm

Here’s some things we’ve got from today’s practice, a non-contact workout held on the upper practice fields at Gillette Stadium:

– The linebacker situation continues to work itself out. For practical purposes, we’re gonna refer to the strong-side inside position here as the “Mike” and the weak-side inside as the “Jack” (In some systems, the WILB is the “Mike” and the SILB is the “Ted”, as we explained last week.) Anyway, newcomer Adalius Thomas spent just about all of today’s practice at the Mike, after working at the Jack during media access last week. This is significant because for the first time since Ted Johnson’s retirement, Tedy Bruschi looks like he could be playing the Jack, his more natural position and where he played for the team during its Super Bowl seasons. That would probably maximize his production, since he struggled some with the physical demands of the Mike over the last couple years, playing alongside Mike Vrabel and Junior Seau. The downside is that by turning Thomas into the Mike — he’s certainly got the size at 270 to play it — you may limit his playmaking ability, which happened to Bruschi over the last couple years. But someone’s gotta play there and, from a physical standpoint, Thomas is probably the best suited to play there. Thomas also took a few snaps on the edge — Bruschi at the Jack and Seau (last year’s Jack) at the Mike — and moved around in the nickel. Mike Vrabel was slotted primarily on the left, and Rosevelt Colvin was on the right (more often the open side), where he played before Seau’s injury last year.

– In the secondary, with Asante Samuel AWOL, the Patriots plugged in Chad Scott with the first team. But what’s real interesting is that Ellis Hobbs remained on the right side, with Scott manning the left, where Samuel has started the last couple years. Generally, your stronger corner plays the left, since most offenses play right-handed and, as such, put the best receiver at the Z (flanker) position. The guess here is that if Samuel drifts further and further away, you’ll probably see Hobbs over there. But for most of today, it was Scott. And when it wasn’t, Tory James was there. The safeties used with those two, most often, were Rodney Harrison on the strong side and Eugene Wilson on the weak-side.

– The receiver situation is very much fluid. While Wes Welker was primarily in the slot, the other three newcomers were playing all over the place. Randy Moss and Donte’ Stallworth both took reps at the X and Z, and at inside positions. Most of the team’s passing work today came in red-zone work, and that’s where you’ll try to exploit matchups most, so all the movement makes sense. Holdovers Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney also played both the X and the Z. What seemed like the combination used most often had Moss as the Z, Gaffney as the X, and Welker in the slot. Also, you can see Garrett Mills, who really does move well, carving out a role as an H-back with the team, and Benjamin Watson playing more of the traditional tight-end role that Daniel Graham had here.

– Welker also was used as a kick returner, which was little surprise. What was interesting was that Le Kevin Smith and Thomas were both back on the kickoff return team. Last year, Mike Wright was used on this team, and it signaled a sign of strong athleticism for a defensive lineman. This, it would seem, says the same about Smith. And if Smith and Thomas have the feet to do it, those would be two devastating blockers to set the wedge up.

– Here’s your list of absences for today: WR Chad Jackson, Samuel, DB Mel Mitchell, DB Eddie Jackson, DB Antwain Spann, S James Sanders, DB Brandon Meriweather, RB Laurence Maroney, LB Eric Alexander, TE David Thomas and DE Richard Seymour. Also, Ps Tom Malone and Danny Baugher, and G Brian Barthelmes remain over in NFL Europa, while RB Sammy Morris wore a red non-contact jersey.

– As for the non-roster report, QB Vinny Testaverde was there, running the third-team offense, while WR Troy Brown — who was at yesterday’s golf tournament — was not.

– One last, funny thing. LB Larry Izzo, a southpaw, ran the scout-team offense for the defense, and actually showed arm strength, if not a ton of accuracy. And Izzo didn’t look all that bad, aside from a couple picks.
 
The only question now is whether Izzo is the #3 QB or Vinnie is. :D

I'm also not sure I like Adalius Thomas playing special teams....
 
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Players that weren't in attendance.

WR Chad Jackson
CB Asante Samuel
S Mel Mitchell
CB Eddie Jackson
CB Antwain Spann
S James Sanders
S Brandon Meriweather
RB Laurence Maroney
LB Eric Alexander
TE David Thomas
DL Richard Seymour
TE David Thomas is recovering from a broken leg from early weight training...

PD.
 
Keeping Wilson at FS is a good move. Better to keep him there at what hes been doing than move him in 18 different places.
 
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

June 05, 2007
5 from camp

FOXBOROUGH –- Five final observations from today’s Patriots minicamp practice:

1) Play of the day. In 7 on 7 drills, quarterback Tom Brady fired a high strike under the goalposts that was snared by receiver Randy Moss in a tight spot. Defensive back Eugene Wilson was in coverage. It might have been that play that Brady was referred to when he said of Moss: “I’m sure you guys see the things he’s capable of in practice already.”

2) The Welker Factor. While receiver Wes Welker continues to show off quickness and precise route running in passing drills, those on hand got their first look at him in kickoff return drills. Prediction: He’s going to become a fan favorite because of his relentless, unassuming approach.

3) Defensive looks. As was the case in the team’s passing camp last week, Adalius Thomas spent plenty of time lining up at inside linebacker in the team’s 3-4 defense. While nothing is likely to be considered permanent at this time, it’s a positional situation to keep an eye on. Thomas played primarily outside linebacker in the Ravens’ 3-4.

4) Tom Brady the teacher. One of the interesting parts of watching a Patriots practice is simply focusing on Brady and the way he works with his receivers, pushing them to do better, while also verbally calling himself out when he doesn’t perform to his own standards. It’s a textbook definition of coach on the field.

5) Massive media interest. There weren’t enough parking spots for those media members in attendance. ESPN.com, NBCsports.com, Yahoo! Sports, ESPN, and USA Today were a few of the national outlets in attendance. It was a reminder that the Patriots are currently one of the top stories in the NFL. After the practice, one unofficial count was that 74 media members were on hand.

Posted By: mreiss | Time: 04:40:36 PM
 
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