Now go get those picks back!

Ras-IR Dowling · Sep 3, 2015

This victory today was just a battle, let's try to win the war.

RobertWeathers · Sep 3, 2015

As happy as I am it won't happen. NFL has no legal obligation to do so.

The question is does it feel that it has a moral obligation as a matter of fairness?

Nope.

Ross12 · Sep 3, 2015

I think Kraft will try, but I don't expect it to happen. The downside to this court situation is that the actual evidence isn't being overturned, just the legal processes. The NFL can say "well, you guys still cheated, we are keeping the picks", and there's little to no recourse the Pats really have available.

363839 · Sep 3, 2015

Ross12 said:
I think Kraft will try, but I don't expect it to happen. The downside to this court situation is that the actual evidence isn't being overturned, just the legal processes. The NFL can say "well, you guys still cheated, we are keeping the picks", and there's little to no recourse the Pats really have available.

I wonder what evidence was overturned since there wasn't too much of that.

Armchair Quarterback · Sep 3, 2015

Don't get your hopes up regarding Kraft.

VrabelJr · Sep 3, 2015

Here's how it's gonna go down:

- Get the picks back
- Draft a siamese twin Left Tackle at #32.
- Have doctors successfully split the siamese twins into two Pro-Bowl tackles
- Watch Brady play until he's 65.

EatSleepWinRepeat · Sep 3, 2015

People still have faith in Kraft? lol

50-yard-line · Sep 3, 2015

Peter King tweeted:

"The right thing happened. Case was never proven. Now the Patriots need to get their 2 draft picks back."

I don't know how, but I'm all for it.

Dr Pain · Sep 3, 2015

Next up Jastermski and McNally's defamation suits against the NFL. They are not public figures, both have been accused of being part of a conspiracy or worse. Berman does not even seem to buy that that tampering even took place and he didn't even get into the science. Berman uses "allegedly deflated footballs" and "seemingly under-inflated footballs". He did not buy any of it.

Jastremski and McNally, I guarantee you can get a lawyer to handle this for a cut for free. This would be the trial of a career for a young hungry great lawyer looking to make a name. It could be filed in a Federal Court in Mass.

Lets see the discovery in this action. Goodell's troubles could be far from over and he better have his texts.

I.M. Fletcher · Sep 3, 2015

The only way this could possibly get sweeter, is if Rog had to hand over the Lombardi in February, and call out pick 32 to the Championed New England Patriots.

I think I want the pick back as much for the public embarrassment for Rog as for the Pats gaining its rightful resource back.

aluminum seats · Sep 3, 2015

robertweathers said:
As happy as I am it won't happen. NFL has no legal obligation to do so.

The question is does it feel that it has a moral obligation as a matter of fairness?

Nope.

Exactly. If the league was ruled by men of honor, they would return the picks as a matter of course. But none of this would have happened if the league was ruled by men of honor. It's ruled by petty, dull-witted, arrogant, jealous, vindictive little men.

But for now at least, we can rejoice in seeing these little men slapped down like the jokes they are.

makoute · Sep 3, 2015

That ship has sailed.

NEPats1 · Sep 3, 2015

Kraft's decision to stand down looks so bad now. That clown CC is still talking on espn saying they were fined and had picks taken away. I wish Kraft AT LEAST fought it.

Maybe it's not too late...

RobAllan · Sep 3, 2015

They can't get those picks back on the basis of the decision. Berman didn't rule on whether wrongdoing was committed by someone within the organization or not. He basically just said Brady can't be punished if someone else did a naughty.

Since the team was fined on the basis of people within the team doing the naughty, there'd have to be some sort of process to disprove the ball deflation. And Kraft has already demonstrated he doesn't have the desire (or possibly the stones) to go down that road.

Mack Herron · Sep 3, 2015

Michael McCann ‏@McCannSportsLaw 1m1 minute ago

Judge Berman's harsh rebuke of NFL justice makes me wonder if Robert Kraft will demand the NFL reconsider its steep punishment of his team.

SHOWTIME15 · Sep 3, 2015

we're onto pittsburgh

Soul_Survivor88 · Sep 3, 2015

Michael McCann ‏@McCannSportsLaw 24s24 seconds ago
Robert Kraft would face an improbable legal fight since he accepted the punishment. But he could argue acceptance is void if he was misled.

RobertWeathers · Sep 3, 2015

Chiuba E. Obele said:
Michael McCann ‏@McCannSportsLaw 24s24 seconds ago
Robert Kraft would face an improbable legal fight since he accepted the punishment. But he could argue acceptance is void if he was misled.

No question he was misled.

The question is will he pursue this.

I'd like to see him rattle his saber if the NFL decides to appeal.

"If you appeal. I look to pursue getting my picks and money back."

turkeyneck · Sep 3, 2015

There's still the matter of that apology BK demanded.

voluntarysaftey · Sep 3, 2015

Judge has determined its unlikely Wells was independent.
Maybe Kraft can ask for an actual independent scientific firm to do the analysis, and base opinion on that.

But in actually I think the bus has already left the station on the draft picks

Now go get those picks back!

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