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Jim Donaldson: Many owners "uncomfortable" and pressuring Goodell to settle


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I don't know if Donaldson thinks that is what Brady is willing to do, but what the owners hope Brady is willing to do.

Good distinction.

Sadly, Donaldson still seem to think that J & M were guilty of something significant.
 
It will be interesting to see what goes on behind the scenes at the owners meeting. My prediction is that Rooney, Mara and Goodell come to Kraft with as proposal that for the good of the Shield, he encourage Brady to take the one game suspension. Whether he influences Brady to do it after his bravado statement will go a long way to showing his sincerity in the matter or conversely that it was just a PR move to placate the fan base.

In that case, I hope they are shocked by the quiet vehemence of his reply.

The distance between "I hope" and "I expect", however, is too great for comfort.
 
They're uncomfortable because they know Brady has the means and the weapons to go after the league for a massive lawsuit.

That's one reason of several.

Brady lawsuit, Brady PR war, Kraft PR war in any combination would be very bad for them.
 
Goodell redefines arrogance every day. Brady is not the kind of guy to say "let's call it even."
 
In a "what have you done for me lately" discussion, I can see owners moving on from Goodell pretty easily. The CBA is locked in for the next six years and owners are guaranteed a growing revenue pie. Thanks Roger.....we compensated you very well for your years of service....but now your presence is a distraction to the on-field product and a divisive force at a time of negotiated peace.
What other sport has the Commissioner's name attached to every headline? How many more fan bases is the NFL willing to alienate? ....Roger is good for at least one a year.

I agree.

I don't think they're ready to move on yet, more's the pity. But if Brady and/or Kraft toss some smart bombs at Goodell and league office, maybe they'll get off their butts and make a change.
 
You have a lot more faith in Kraft's position based on his latest statement than I have based ont he past eight years of his actions and his prior statements. Until he actually says or does anything negative regarding Goodell himself I doubt the bridge has been burned. I believe Kraft has already convinced himself that Pash is to a blame and that Goodell was put in a bad position. So when they come to him with the one game prop osal he will be receptive. We shall see what happens.

Well, there is the story of him signing a "Fire Goodell" poster and saying "I agree".
 
If the owners are unhappy now, wait until they start getting deposed in the defamation suit. Discovery's a *****.
 
I think the party here that doesn't want to settle regardless of the terms is the NFLPA. For them this isn't about deflated balls or even Tom Brady, its about getting a precedent set in a Federal Court in NY that they can use as leverage to stick it to the owners in the next CBA (if not before then).

A settlement would obviously have to be no games and no acceptance of guilt from Brady, he wouldn't accept any less. But from the NFL's side they will never admit that their processes and powers were inappropriate. So a settlement from their side would likely revolve around lack of evidence against Brady instead of a labor issue. This would vindicate Brady personally, but the NFLPA doesn't care about that, they care about beating the NFL and regaining some control.

I think the NFLPA wants to take this as far as they can because they feel they are onto a winner. At the same time I think a lot of the owners see that as well and know this verdict could be a huge hit to them and the commissioners powers. I hope Judge Berman not only rules in favor of Brady and the NFLPA, but tears the NFL and particularly Goodell a new one in his verdict. I know a lot of fans and media stopped paying attention once Brady's side of the story started to come out, but it will be mighty difficult to ignore if a Federal Judge destroys Goodell and the NFL for their despicable behavior in this matter.

Wilfork#75 has made a VERY wise comment. I think you have it exactly right. The NFL brief to Berman says, basically, that Goodell can do any dang thing he wants, given the CBA and past arbitration rulings. Kessler and the NFLPA, on the other hand, are attempting to build a very tight box limiting the Commissioner's authority. Their brief builds a four-point argument based on precedent in BountyGate, Rice, and Peterson. The Brady case would further limit Goodell on disciplinary authority by requiring (1) notice of charge, (2) tighter rules on "fairness and consistency," (3) fundamental fairness in the investigative and appeal phases, and (4) more clearly demonstrated impartiality.

Berman wants to force the parties to settle and doesn't really care about establishing precedent.

Goodell and the owners, given the enormous downside they face if Berman rules in Brady's favor, should be eager to settle.

Even Brady, as the season looms, might want to settle to put this whole, stinky matter to rest.

But I can see absolutely NO REASON Kessler and the NFLPA would settle without substantial concessions from the league on future disciplinary standards (which the league will not give). Therefore, a settlement doesn't benefit the union at all. As Wilfork#75 has said, the huge win for them is a Berman ruling that restricts Goodell's power in all future cases.
 
As Wilfork#75 has said, the huge win for them is a Berman ruling that restricts Goodell's power in all future cases.

They hoped to escape that by moving to another district. But if Berman says the same things Doty did, it will be tough for them, unless they can reverse it on appeal.

I don't think they have ANOTHER district to run to very easily, if they get smacked down in their home one.
 
You have a lot more faith in Kraft's position based on his latest statement than I have based ont he past eight years of his actions and his prior statements. Until he actually says or does anything negative regarding Goodell himself I doubt the bridge has been burned. I believe Kraft has already convinced himself that Pash is to a blame and that Goodell was put in a bad position. So when they come to him with the one game prop osal he will be receptive. We shall see what happens.


Kraft has no say in this, period, and neither do the other 31 @hole owners. This is Brady's decision and he should tell anyone who sticks their nose in it to to go f.ck themselves. And at this point he should tell them to get their checkbooks ready for the defamation suit he will be filing.
 
Hoping, again, that the league will do something different is just banging your head against a stone wall. They have already proven what the want! And what they want is the Pats balls in a vice.
The one and only hope is for the courts to actually rule honestly without being bribed or cajoled by politics or personal gain. And appoint an independant arbitrator for the whole nasty affair!
So basically, both hopes are like wishing on a shooting star.
 
The Brady case would further limit Goodell on disciplinary authority by requiring (1) notice of charge, (2) tighter rules on "fairness and consistency," (3) fundamental fairness in the investigative and appeal phases, and (4) more clearly demonstrated impartiality.

I disagree with the verb choice, but not your points.

I don't think they're trying to establish new limits on the authority per se; I think all they're demanding is that he be consistent with past precedent.
 
So get him the **** out of office. The game is a cash cow. They don't need this assclown in there to keep making money hand over fist.
 
Another possible point and one that might backfire on the NFL. Up until now, they can basically say that Doty/MN has been very unfavorable for the NFL. The NFL is playing their ace by having this appear in SDNY. If they have multiple courts ruling against them, then another district would probably have to consider the past rules from these districts in future decisions.

The NFL may be helping to build a better case against themselves for future rules (and the way Goodell and the NYFL is going, it won't be too long before they are back).
 
To put it bluntly, Brady's legacy really will have an asterisk if he accepts any suspension on this. The obvious perception will be there for good.

I think he'd rather go all the way on this even if he ends up unjustly sitting for 4 games. He can proclaim his innocence and his legacy will be untouched.
 
Tom Brady is not interested in settling for the "1 game" the article talks about. Tom Brady pursued this for vindication, not a reduced suspension.

How could you possibly know that to be true. You don't
 
I don't care if the other teams want the NFL to settle. Takes two to tango and I pray Brady is in no mood to dance.

I hope he realizes that nearly 100% of Pats Nation is on board with him if he fights this til the end, even if that means sitting for four games

I'm REALLY hoping that we see John Oliver turn his attention to the NFL now that he's finished helping to clean up FIFA

He would have a FIELD DAY ripping Goodell apart - the laughter with Ron Wolf is the icing on the cake for a guy like Oliver

If and when that happens the Owners are going to wish they were a little less passive about backing a known chronic liar

Goodell is GONE before the next CBA - there will be a new discipline process and the owners would be fools to leave Goodell in when the the CBA comes up next. Best they make a change from him sooner than later
 
I'm REALLY hoping that we see John Oliver turn his attention to the NFL now that he's finished helping to clean up FIFA

He would have a FIELD DAY ripping Goodell apart - the laughter with Ron Wolf is the icing on the cake for a guy like Oliver

Oliver was brilliant and incredibly successful with FIFA though I worry about the beer he had to drink. He might not be willing to make that sacrifice again.
 
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