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Brady will be suspended by Roger Goodell for role in DeflateGate, announcement expected next week


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McNally took the balls supposedly without informing the refs and went to the toilet on his way out to the field. That being said, according to stadium security he was moving the balls alone to the field multiple times this year but never visited the toilet before. If you see some incriminating pattern there let me know because I can't see anything damning.

Also I don't see how any of this has anything to do with Brady. All he wanted were balls at around 12.5 PSI.
It was also said though that the texts during the Jets game were at half time, a time where theyre not allowed to handle he footballs. Many are saying the texts heavily suggested the ball boys texts hinted at this strongly. This is the thing I don't get.
 
.Deep down the NFL cannot believe they can win this with the evidence that is currently presented.

It's not "they"...it's HIM.

Back in 2007 I was the voice in the wilderness on this board screaming that Goodell trumped up the "spygate" garbage because it was directly counter to HIS stated mission objective...ABSOLUTE LEAGUE PARITY. The NEP were an outlier then to his most fervent desire for "different season, different champion". I was villified, called a paranoid, delusional, crazy...break out a thesaurus and pick a freakin' synonym.

Today it's a "plain as broad daylight" issue. You all KNOW now what I've known since he was named commissioner. He has a constant, focused plan of attack to tear away at the very fabric of Patriots football and the Patriot philosophy of "team". Goodell IS an insular, detached, little spoiled rich kid all grown up elitist with nearly ZERO understanding of the fans and absolutely no regard for the players. He is a pimp for the members of the billionaires Boys Club and nothing more.

I've been reading a lot of opinions on our board the past few days and I get an overwhelming sense of rage, betrayal, confusion and outright disbelief. I share it all with every one of you. None of you fine people, intelligent, well spoken and fair minded to a man(woman) deserves to have that part of your lives that gives you pleasure enjoyment and escape from the drudgery of the everyday rat race ripped to shreds by this insensitive , malignant insult to the human gene pool. Roger Goodell SHOULD have been removed as commissioner after that sham of a Super Bowl fix in 2007, a fix HE orchestrated and took visible pleasure in. Mike Carey should have been switched with Charlie McCarthy the minute that game ended and Puppeteerdell should have been exposed for the blatant rigging of that contest.

It took years for people here and elsewhere to begin to come around that this league and this national media machine was in lockstep with some kind of agenda or directive aimed at solely maximizing profits for all concerned, at the expense of credibility. The Ray Lewis Retirement Show in 2013...here's a brief snippet from a cursory Google topic search...
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Feb 4, 2013 - Ray Lewis went out a winner, capturing the second Super Bowl title of his career, which ended with Sunday night's win and a wild celebration ..."


WILD!!! CELEBRATORY!!!...Torrey Smith ripping a defender's arms on a sure INT at the 2:00 mark of the 1st half in front of hundreds of millions of viewers...no call. A game changer for S.F. Denied by referee refusal to call the blatantly obvious. Then the mystery "blackout" for 15 minutes giving the Ravens D a much needed blow as they were getting slashed by the 9ers offense....and the outrageous pass interference in the end zone at the end of the game on Crabtree by Jimmy Smith. You ALL saw it.

I told everyone here WELL BEFORE the game was played that this was going to be a Goodell special sanitizing Ray Lewis and his image and that there would be an immediate transfer from NFL to ESPN analyst post game. Again I was vilified by some as a paranoid, others as a "tin foil hat". We all saw what happened.

Throughout it all, however, there has been ONE constant. The relentless attack on the NEP, the "hold to a higher standard" league strategy used solely on the NEP, the constant revising and changing of the rules of NFL football aimed directly at the NEP and now THIS...an outright, ultra-preposterous witch hunt that has already pronounced sentence on the NEP without even the merest hint of any democratic sense of due process, fairness or legality.

OK, I'm going to wander back out into the wilderness again when I say this to all of you...in my opinion, the only recourse we have, as fans, as hard working, righteous , intelligent human beings is an organized "fan action". I would call for a ground swell of NEP fans to begin to protest the abomination that this league has become by fighting back using the same media THEY use to spin their lies. I would ask that the segment of this fanbase that pays for season tickets and attends games at Gillette hold a "game action". One game, with the "media" notified in advance. Our fans with PAID tickets, paying the exhorbitant parking fees, arriving in normal fashion, tailgating, throwing footballs around, doing THAT which all NFL fans do every Sunday and which forms the backbone of this league. Show up! DO NOT ENTER the game. Remain in the lots and the lawn chairs and grills going strong...and let that game be played out in front of NO ONE. Let ESPN,NFLN,the Boston media and press sit inside by themselves and commentate on national TV while the country sits in their living rooms watching an empty stadium. If this moron Goodell is going to suspend Tom Brady, let US join him in that suspension until this ignoroid, this utter lying, despicable weasel of a human being notices his emperor's new clothes are nothing more than transparent cellophane.

We can no longer hope to enjoy our chosen pastime if this monocular, mongoloidal rhinocerous-like commissioner is allowed to run amok with impunity, trampling our relaxation time and our life long pastime. Only action will work now. THAT is only my opinion of course, but I see no toher option.

As usual Joker, you got me to thinking.

If it's parity that Fraudger is really after, then he's failing miserably at that too. In his 9 years as NFL Czar there are five teams, NE, Indy, Baltimore, GB and Seattle, that have made the playoffs almost all the time. There's another handful that have been to the playoffs more than half the time during Goody the Jet's reign.

After watching this clown in action for all these years, I don't think he would have fared real well in the real world without daddy's coat tails to hang onto.
 
It would be disgraceful if the NFL suspended Brady for even a single game after suspending Ray Rice for 2. Isn't there anyone out there in the national media who can put this in perspective? The infraction is tiny compared to Rice.

What infraction?
 
What infraction?
Perhaps being generally aware that something is more likely to have occurred than not based on a few text messages from a couple of guys talking about something perhaps more than likely to have been generally related to something that will sometimes result in a fine....or not.
 
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I think Goodell could "split it up" or itemize it or whatever you want to call it. It's a semantic game, and pretty lame, but probably effective.

Since the evidence for the tampering is flimsy, and the evidence of his knowledge of tampering is very flimsy Goodell could do something very minor "for that charge". Like the $25K fine like rulebook mentions.

But for the failure to cooperate, which is an ironclad case, I'm afraid Goodell could lower the boom. I would imagine Goodell really wants to send a message that failure to cooperate is a really big deal in his eyes. He hates when someone doesn't say "how high" when he says "jump". He sees it as a challenge to his authority and overreacts.

If Brady took the deflation penalty it to court or an outside entity, he's seen as basically arguing about a $25K fine. Kinda petty and not a good look for him. And if he took the "failure to cooperate" penalty to an outside entity he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Sorry, Peachhead, but there is no "IRONCLAD" case of failure to cooperate by Brady. Yee has already come out and stated that Brady cooperated FULLY with the investigators. He spent an entire day answering questions from 4 lawyers AND he let them look at the messages on his cell phone. What Brady didn't do is relinquish control of his cell phone. Which he is perfectly within his right. The claim of failure to cooperate is a HUGE lie and will be one of the many things that will blow up in the face of the NFL when Brady takes this to the Minnesota judge.
 
Sorry, Peachhead, but there is no "IRONCLAD" case of failure to cooperate by Brady. Yee has already come out and stated that Brady cooperated FULLY with the investigators. He spent an entire day answering questions from 4 lawyers AND he let them look at the messages on his cell phone. What Brady didn't do is relinquish control of his cell phone. Which he is perfectly within his right. The claim of failure to cooperate is a HUGE lie and will be one of the many things that will blow up in the face of the NFL when Brady takes this to the Minnesota judge.

My bad for not reading the report - you stated "Brady cooperated FULLY with the investigators. He spent an entire day answering questions from 4 lawyers AND he let them look at the messages on his cell phone". That is the first time this has been stated in all of the media reports that I have read. Noting such, how can writers claim he did not cooperate?
 
Typical nfl, leak the rumor friday, measure the reactions over the weekend and make the call monday
 
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The only thing I would worry about is that brady will have to go to court to fight for a neutral arbitrator since Goody according to the CBA can and probably will be the Brady's first chance at arbitration.
 
Huh. Brady has all his texts. He and Yee and whoever else can play Wells' game if it becomes open public warfare... Can you see a release of texts to BB and/or Kraft asking them to take action about the 16PSI balls... especially if either of the above forwarded the concerns to the league (just for example?)

You do have to wonder what a few "leaks" about the NFL, straight from a team owner, would do in this situation... although I am sure there are NDAs out the wazoo against it at the owner level.
 
just heard from my sister...she is friends with this girl and her boyfriends cousin gets his hair cut by a girl who used to date a guy who has a brother in law that know an unnamed source in the NFL front office...Brady will be suspended for the entire 2015-2016 season

whoa, you heard it here first
 
It was also said though that the texts during the Jets game were at half time, a time where theyre not allowed to handle he footballs. Many are saying the texts heavily suggested the ball boys texts hinted at this strongly. This is the thing I don't get.

I thought those texts were about how Brady was pissed about the balls being over inflated?
 
It would be disgraceful if the NFL suspended Brady for even a single game after suspending Ray Rice for 2.

I think the main problem with this is that Goodell seemed to overcompensate in the other direction last year when the Rice elevator tape was released. He then proceeded to suspend Rice, Hardy, and Peterson all indefinitely. He's been on a rampage. Last year was a bad year for the NFL and Goodell needs to tame this whole situation down.
 
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Huh. Brady has all his texts. He and Yee and whoever else can play Wells' game if it becomes open public warfare... Can you see a release of texts to BB and/or Kraft asking them to take action about the 16PSI balls... especially if either of the above forwarded the concerns to the league (just for example?)

You do have to wonder what a few "leaks" about the NFL, straight from a team owner, would do in this situation... although I am sure there are NDAs out the wazoo against it at the owner level.
Dont think he needs to even release the texts. I just want him to release all the QA from the 5 hr interrogation from Ted Wells..from which the report contains only 2 things . 1. He claimed he doesnt know Mcnally 2. He wont hand over the phone.
This went on for 5 freaking hours ????
Obviously anyone who reads this without yee telling everyone for the day long interview would think brady blew off the investigators after 5 mins.
 
The NFL royally clowned this thing up. The report has holes in it that you can drive a truck through. They will look ridiculous trying to defend this report if push came to shove. The problem is, they did a piss poor job managing public perception so they can't back down. It's going to be a tremendous sh*tshow regardless of what they decide and the NFL only has itself to blame.
 
Dont think he needs to even release the texts. I just want him to release all the QA from the 5 hr interrogation from Ted Wells..from which the report contains only 2 things . 1. He claimed he doesnt know Mcnally 2. He wont hand over the phone.
This went on for 5 freaking hours ????
Obviously anyone who reads this without yee telling everyone for the day long interview would think brady blew off the investigators after 5 mins.

That might well be part of what he says when he's ready to discuss things.

There is no open public folder of the materials resulting in the Wells report. The Pats could demand that all that is not be published be made publicly available.

But once again that's got to come from the team. If they want that circus, they should ask for it the day of the recommended suspension -- and they've got to carefully weigh what would come from it.

Then the Shield could just shield that stuff until day 1 of the regular season... and you prolong the circus. So whichever way the raw documents point the press, the Pats would have more rather than fewer distractions.

The report itself just seems so horrible as a document (I don't mean the results, I mean the methodology) that it looks like that's the league's "best shot." If that's the case, a public airing of how the books were cooked might be enlightening. Hell, the cook some of the books right in front of you, just by explaining them away in the text.
 
Long time ago, there was a popular TV show called "The Wire" and we learned what is the benefit of using a "burner".

If you are doing risky business, stay off the cellphone you fool or use a burner!

Noobs.
 
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