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(Merged x3) It's All Happening!!! PFT Now Blames The NFL For Tarnishing The PATS Image


well , as far as this "kinda-gate" thread is going, I'd just like to inform you, my Patriot friends, that I, Joe Kerr am a huge fan of fine wine....in fact, my friends consider me to be quite an expert...I guess that's what they mean when they say.."That Joe is a kindasewer...":D
 
MR. tyson is a mouthpiece who pretends to know SCIENCE. as a nice voice the black man can look and sound authoritive whenreading a script written by someone else.

That he espouses the PSEUDO-science of cagw when increasingly no one else does says it all.
 
PFT story on the "room" is out....

90 seconds in the toilet.

First, per a league source, the other “area on way to field” is a bathroom. The bathroom consists of one toilet and one sink and a door that locks from the inside.

Second, according to the same source, the person carried two bags of balls into the bathroom: the 12 balls to be used by the Patriots and the 12 balls to be used by the Colts.

Third, from the same source, the evidence comes from a surveillance video that was discovered by the Patriots and given to the NFL early in the investigation.

Fourth, again from the same source, the video shows the employee in the bathroom for approximately 90 seconds.

Could the employee have fished 12 balls out of a fairly large bag, deflated each of them by two pounds, put them back into the bag, and exited the bathroom in roughly 90 seconds? That question will surely become the centerpiece of the next red state/blue state debate between folks who have determined that the Patriots have done something wrong and those who are staunchly defending the franchise.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/26/video-shows-employee-taking-24-balls-into-bathroom/

Maybe we'll find out that BB keeps a record of every flush... :rolleyes:
 
URINE-GATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm not sure why so much time and energy is being spent debunking the veracity of one of the very, very few sources of information that have been defending the Patriots from the very beginning.

Arguing over the worthiness of a friend and ally seems misplaced when there are 1000's of other exaggerations and lies being told about us by our enemies on a daily basis.

There shouldn't be any arguing about anything, ever--but it's okay to bring up the fact that they completely changed their story.

There are clearly going to be 2 different groups here:

1) those who really actually want to know the truth, and whether or not we should get excited for a possible exoneration. Some of us who have been around for the past 2 major sagas like Spygate + Hernandez are likely going to be a bit more apprehensive with what we believe. Weird sources who no one's ever heard of prior to a few days ago are going to be taken with a grain of salt

2) those here who wish to talk about the "gifts," "lawsuits," and "apologies" that we'll surely be getting from all of the rest of the teams and fanbases around the country, not to mention the fact that most of the head officials in the NFL will surely lose their jobs

The truth lies somewhere in the middle, I would assume.
 
There shouldn't be any arguing about anything, ever--but it's okay to bring up the fact that they completely changed their story.

There are clearly going to be 2 different groups here:

1) those who really actually want to know the truth, and whether or not we should get excited for a possible exoneration. Some of us who have been around for the past 2 major sagas like Spygate + Hernandez are likely going to be a bit more apprehensive with what we believe. Weird sources who no one's ever heard of prior to a few days ago are going to be taken with a grain of salt

2) those here who wish to talk about the "gifts," "lawsuits," and "apologies" that we'll surely be getting from all of the rest of the teams and fanbases around the country, not to mention the fact that most of the head officials in the NFL will surely lose their jobs

The truth lies somewhere in the middle, I would assume.
And then there is the other group that understands that this is about more than PSI and that a major battle is being fought.
 
I had a post typed out (Deus actually quoted most of it below if you want to read it). From what I've seen SoV have been right, you disagree and that's fine. I propose we just drop it and focus on the upcoming game instead. :cool:

Yes--if we see a difference of opinions, now or in the future, I certainly agree that it's best to move on. I appreciate your positive attitude and think that is a high class move, which I admire.
 
At this point, the investigation should end tomorrow. Just have the piss boy take a lie detector test.
 
And then there is the other group that understands that this is about more than PSI and that a major battle is being fought.

I agree that there are likely people with agendas who are behind this whole thing, but I'm not sure that will really matter in the end. We'll have to see.

As of now, nothing has really changed that much from a week ago that leads me to believe that we should all be celebrating.
 
At this point, the investigation should end tomorrow. Just have the piss boy take a lie detector test.

That would certainly be nice to see--an honest attempt at putting the nonsense to rest, finding the truth of the story with the only real avenue of proof available, and getting back to the main event.
 
This is not a joke. I really think someone should tell him. Test his numbers experimentally.

Tyson just mucked up relative vs absolute pressure, no experiment needed. 15% drop in one, 7% in the other. Unfortunately for him, ideal gas law needs absolute pressure. As an Astrophysicist he's probably happy he got the order of magnitude right.
 
I agree that there are likely people with agendas who are behind this whole thing, but I'm not sure that will really matter in the end. We'll have to see.

As of now, nothing has really changed that much from a week ago that leads me to believe that we should all be celebrating.
Kraft and BB taking a stand instead of bending over is why we are celebrating. Knowing how much attention to detail BB pays, I am almost certain that he has been building a case against the NFL since 07. The gloves are off on both sides and there is little chance of a compromise at this point. I have confidence that our guys will win, but whichever sides loses will face some pretty serious repercussions. I think this is the beginning of the end for Goodell.
 
That would certainly be nice to see--an honest attempt at putting the nonsense to rest, finding the truth of the story with the only real avenue of proof available, and getting back to the main event.


It would seem to be simple enough. A promise of either no retribution, or a fair severance check, for his willingness to take the test. Hell, Maury can announce the results.

"You were asked if you altered the footballs you took with you to the bathroom. You said no."

"That was a lie/You were telling the truth"
 
There shouldn't be any arguing about anything, ever--but it's okay to bring up the fact that they completely changed their story.

There are clearly going to be 2 different groups here:

1) those who really actually want to know the truth, and whether or not we should get excited for a possible exoneration. Some of us who have been around for the past 2 major sagas like Spygate + Hernandez are likely going to be a bit more apprehensive with what we believe. Weird sources who no one's ever heard of prior to a few days ago are going to be taken with a grain of salt

2) those here who wish to talk about the "gifts," "lawsuits," and "apologies" that we'll surely be getting from all of the rest of the teams and fanbases around the country, not to mention the fact that most of the head officials in the NFL will surely lose their jobs

The truth lies somewhere in the middle, I would assume.

I agree with your sentiment and know that you simply only want to use the purest and most verifiable truth in our defense, but in my opinion, thats acting too much like Ned Stark did when he refused the help of Varys because he didn't think the man was as honorable as he was.

When I'm getting my head chopped off, I don't care that the people coming out in support of me are 100% verifiable or not, I just want to keep my head and punish the people responsible for trying to take it.
 
Kraft and BB taking a stand instead of bending over is why we are celebrating. Knowing how much attention to detail BB pays, I am almost certain that he has been building a case against the NFL since 07. The gloves are off on both sides and there is little chance of a compromise at this point. I have confidence that our guys will win, but whichever sides loses will face some pretty serious repercussions. I think this is the beginning of the end for Goodell.

I agree that it's great to see the team defending itself. It would've been nice to see that happen 7-8 yrs ago, but it's still good to see now when everyone in the world has already found them guilty.

I'm not quite sure that's all people have been celebrating (half-celebrating?) though. There has been a feeling of innocence around here since Thursday night that I've yet to figure out. Is it good to see some conflicting reports regarding some of the finer nuances (1 PSI vs. 2 PSI--the truth is probably somewhere in the middle)? Sure, but I don't know what has been reported that leads people to feel confident. This is in the hands of some of the most incompetent people in the entire world, or it would never have gotten this far to begin with.
 
I agree with your sentiment and know that you simply only want to use the purest and most verifiable truth in our defense, but in my opinion, thats acting too much like Ned Stark did when he refused the help of Varys because he didn't think the man was as honorable as he was.

When I'm getting my head chopped off, I don't care that the people coming out in support of me are 100% verifiable or not, I just want to keep my head and punish the people responsible for trying to take it.

Okay, I can certainly accept that explanation.

Believe me, I can't even put into words how much I want these Sharks of Vegas people to be correct.
 


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