Deflate-Gate: Here We Go Again

juny said:

So Ravens tipped them off? I just thought their stupid head coach said they had no suspicions on this. smh, wtf, omg

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This was a few hours ago. Why is everyone acting up on this report now?

juny said:

So Ravens tipped them off? I just thought their stupid head coach said they had no suspicions on this. smh, wtf, omg

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That is why im just waiting for official NFl word.. Too many leaks n crap.. Don't know who to believe, however .. we all know the damage has been done..

SunsOutGunsOut said:

https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/558042108506820610

Jay Glazer.. Not looking good.. Says some in the league down there are tired of this crap from pats

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Wow, Belichick and the Pats sound done.

Skeeter712 said:

You're kidding right?

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See my other post. QB's have been messing with balls since the beginning of time.

I think Brady paying off a kid to take some air out of the balls after the officials check them out is a lot more believable that BB orchestrating some kind of subversive plot to deflate the balls.

Joey007 said:

Well I wouldn't think so either. It just happened to be that another poster posted that they think if Brady was behind this that he would likely be.

Was just wondering what others in this thread thought about that.

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Brady is one of the NFL biggest stars playing in the biggest game the only thing he'll probably get if he's guilty is a slap on the wrist and a fine...if were suspended Rodgers should've been suspended every game he overinflated the footballs

Danger Zone said:

Assumption of guilt there.

A loss of 1.5 psi is well within the realm of what would be the expected loss in psi had the footballs been inflated with indoor temperature air.

As it has been point out, the math comes out to be 82 degrees.

At worst, do you really think it was cheating if the Patriots filled their footballs with 82 degree temperature air?

And I'm pretty sure that figure doesn't include a lot of little x-factors that other experts have included in their own calculations. It just takes a couple of these other x-factors to be true and we are looking at another loss of .25 or so in psi.

We only need to account for a TOTAL loss of 1.5 psi.

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Except it doesn't explain why the Colts footballs measured up just fine.

nowayback said:

Lets say BB is sick of other qb's using overinflated or under balls and other teams tampering with balls. He could complain forever ..nothing would change. How about now? You think something will change? . he had to spit blood to get the goalposts raised

He got rid of the cameras that way

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Just watched the glazer report... If true & "coaches, GMs & owners" are sick of this stuff from NE...the sh#t is really gonna hit the fan....
So sick of this stuff from the pats

Marqui said:

Wow, Belichick and the Pats sound done.

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What's the big deal about this video? I didn't watch it.

Cover page of Wilson's 2014 Football Handbook:

Until a league official says other wise, so far the ONLY official word is from Dean Blandino and that is ONE ball was taken from circulation, that happens on a regular basis and the ball is what gets investigated.

The media are trolling for clicks and you're all giving them the money by lapping it all up.

FCB02062 said:

Just watched the glazer report... If true & "coaches, GMs & owners" are sick of this stuff from NE...the sh#t is really gonna hit the fan....
So sick of this stuff from the pats

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I dont believe any of that they are sick of us winning that's it.

juny said:

So Ravens tipped them off? I just thought their stupid head coach said they had no suspicions on this. smh, wtf, omg

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I want to get away from this **** until the final report comes but it seems like I just can't. I'll say one more thing on the matter before I move on for some hours.

If the Ravens tipped off the Colts, then why wait until half time to test the balls? Also, with Harbaugh's statement, that would conflict with the Ravens tipping off the Colts.

It's really looking more and more like teams just piling up with false info to try and take down the Pats due to them losing.

I really hope the report comes tomorrow. And that is all I am going to say on the matter for now.

The first two pumps to inflate a ball do nothing to change the air pressure. It's the same inside the ball as outside the ball. Just think about it. The PSI gauge would say 0 (zero), because the air pressure in Foxborough might be 15 psi outside, and therefore 15 psi inside a football with very little air in it.

Eventually the air inside the ball becomes constraint by the leather shell, and the leather starts to stretch. The pressure inside the ball builds. Where it started at 15 psi, it now passes 16 psi, 20 psi, 25 psi, etc. In each of these cases, the gauge would show 1 psi, 5 psi, 10 psi, respectively (just subtract).

The last two pumps to inflate a ball are the toughest. That's where you can get the needle on the pressure gauge to jump the most. It's also at this point there is the smallest increase in actual air required to move the needle. The ball is already stretched thin! It takes a very little bit of air to increase the PSI inside the ball significantly by this point. The weight difference of that extra air will not be seen on a scale. In fact, the weight of an empty football is identical for all intents and purposes to an over-inflated football. It's just air!

While the pressure in Foxborough remains at 15 PSI, the last pump would increase the air pressure inside a ball from 26 PSI to 28 PSI. That means the gauge would increase from 11 PSI to 13 PSI. The air pressure inside the ball increased by 8%, not 18%. If you raise a flag on a building from 5 feet to 10 feet, you didn't double the height of the building, after all (100%), you might have increased it only by a tiny fraction of 1%.

Therefore, if the referees want to measure footballs at half-time -- 4 hours after their preparation begins -- and punish a team if it's beyond a range, then +/- 0.5 PSI is too strict.

Teams bring their own gameballs that have been modified over months (scraped, brushed, polished, weathered, water-boarded, and used in practice) while the manufacturer's guidelines reflect the PSI of a brand new ball. Maybe teams should be given leeway to do what they already do to control the inflation. And maybe the current allowance of +/- 0.5 PSI is too strict given how that can change over a 6 or 7 hour period from 2.5 hours prior to the game until the end of overtime.

Big-T said:

Until a league official says other wise, so far the ONLY official word is from Dean Blandino and that is ONE ball was taken from circulation, that happens on a regular basis and the ball is what gets investigated.

The media are trolling for clicks and you're all giving them the money by lapping it all up.

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this


the media loves this ****


they love to bring down the best team in the best game.


until anything comes out, is all conjecture

SunsOutGunsOut said:

https://twitter.com/nflonfox/status/558042108506820610

Jay Glazer.. Not looking good.. Says some in the league down there are tired of this crap from pats

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Sounds like a pretty reasonable report. No, maybe it didn't affect anything. But other teams want to stick it to the Patriots. Grudges being repaid.

I know it won't happen, and it probably shouldn't, but I just wish we'd take down these forums until the announcement on this is made. I gotta get away from this.

All of this means one thing. 31 other teams could have been successful in the last 14 years if they had only deflated the balls.

All this "advantage to grip better in cold & rain" when using under-inflated balls.

Well, IF the Colts already was suspicious in the REGULAR game against the Patriots, how can it be an advantage? It was IN A DOME.

So, I think the "advantage thing" is BS.

My guess is that Brady wanted footballs to be a bit under-inflated. As all QBs have preferences.
Somehow, they may have switched the balls? or something like that.

Bottom line is that they intentionally broken the NFL rule. That is the issue, NOT a competitive advantage baloney.

IMO.

Marqui said:

Wow, Belichick and the Pats sound done.

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Glazer is pretty accurate too.