Patriots are signing Patrick Chung

BSR said:

So by that logic, anyone that says Slatter is a great special teamer must be rationalizing the keeping of a lousy wide receiver. Personally I think right now you are doing a terrible job of defending your lousy analyzing.

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Slater isn't a WR - he's a ST specialist. If Chung was anywhere near as good on ST as Slater is, I would be a-okay with this signing as a ST-only asset. But Chung while good on ST, is nowhere near Slater's level.

Deus Irae said:

Why do the usual suspects have to come into a thread where they know people are going to be blowing off steam about a signing, and piss all over people because they are blowing off steam about a signing? They know what they are going to see in this thread before they click on it. I started off with a joke and a couple of gifs for fun, and someone *****ed about the gifs as 'drama'. Even long time homers have posted some 'negative' things in this thread. Why shouldn't they? Everyone knows that Chung was a failure the first time around. Everyone knows that Chung was a failure in Philly. Everyone knows that this pick will be greeted with a range of thought/emotion, and that people will move on from there in hopes that a better alternative than the current group is eventually found.

Coming in here and crying about the reaction is tantamount to going into the "Jets suck" thread and complaining about posters who are saying that the Jets suck.

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I know you won't respond, but how exactly is this different from you accusing people who don't see this signing being bad as Gwyneth Paltrow of rationalizing (rather than steely-eyed analysis, which as we know only you are capable of) the move?

Deus Irae said:

Why do the usual suspects have to come into a thread where they know people are going to be blowing off steam about a signing, and piss all over people because they are blowing off steam about a signing? They know what they are going to see in this thread before they click on it. I started off with a joke and a couple of gifs for fun, and someone *****ed about the gifs as 'drama'. Even long time homers have posted some 'negative' things in this thread. Why shouldn't they? Everyone knows that Chung was a failure the first time around. Everyone knows that Chung was a failure in Philly. Everyone knows that this pick will be greeted with a range of thought/emotion, and that people will move on from there in hopes that a better alternative than the current group is eventually found.

Coming in here and crying about the reaction is tantamount to going into the "Jets suck" thread and complaining about posters who are saying that the Jets suck.

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Blowing off steam is fine, some people are acting like Chung was just named the week 1 starter next to McCourty.

Deus Irae said:

The excuse for keeping Tavon has been that he's young and a great special teamer.

The excuse for keeping Ebner has been that he's young and a great special teamer.

How many "Can't play safety and can't cover worth a damn, but can play special teams" safeties do you think are needed?

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Oh, I think I can answer that one.

First, let me say: "Three-time Super Bowl Champion Je'Rod Cherry."
Second: "The Patriots have never won a Super Bowl without Je'Rod Cherry."

2001, roster included:
Je'Rod Cherry
Antwan Harris
Matt Stevens

2003, roster included:
Je'Rod Cherry
Antwan Harris
Chris Akins
Aric Morris

2004, roster included:
Je'Rod Cherry
Shawn Mayer
Dexter Reid

2007, roster included:
Willie Andrews
Mel Mitchell
Rashad Baker
(plus Rodney Harrison, Eugene Wilson, Brandon Meriweather, & James Sanders)

So, empirically, three is a good number. Some years two. Better rosters have had three ST safeties.

Sciz said:

https://twitter.com/tomecurran/status/451771979771953152


Huh?

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everlong said:

The April Fool's Day statute of limitations has expired.

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BritPat said:

Oh God....

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Sicilian said:

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BradyFTW! said:

FFS, seriously? But why? This is another one of those deals that I just have to hope has zero/negligible guaranteed money, so that if/when he continues to suck in training camp and is cut, it won't be a big deal.

I'd rather have Gregory back. If we're going to take an undersized safety who's better in run support than pass defense, I'd prefer to have the one who is bad-but-not-abysmal in coverage.

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PatsWickedPissah said:

BB's next move now that we lost Blount will be to re-sign Maroney

...and you guys don't think he enjoys punking the fan base

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Patsfanin Philly said:

Or an April's Fools joke, two days late. It's like dating your ex-wife. There is a reason it didn't work out in the first place. Why do you think it will now?????


(and I don't even have an ex-wife)

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DaBronxPats14 said:

Seriously?! So BB was lookin into gettin a Safety and Chung was his best option?

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AzorianPats said:

Ehh he'll be cut sometime during TC

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patchick said:

This makes sense to me. Chung is an abysmal starting safety, but an upgrade on defense compared to the typical Je'Rod Cherry/Nate Ebner special teamer.

I presume he came cheap, and I can't imagine this will change draft priorites one bit.

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primetime said:

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Haters.

Well known, constantly anti-Patriots haters.

Every single one of them.

strngplyr said:

Blowing off steam is fine, some people are acting like Chung was just named the week 1 starter next to McCourty.

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No, people are acting like Chung sucks. If the Jets had signed him, instead of the Patriots, the people defending this would be mocking it.

Chung was my binky from 2009-2011. I wanted him to succeed...but...my reaction fits in with majority.

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BradyFTW! said:

Slater isn't a WR - he's a ST specialist. If Chung was anywhere near as good on ST as Slater is, I would be a-okay with this signing as a ST-only asset. But Chung while good on ST, is nowhere near Slater's level.

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Like Ebner.

Jimke said:

Chung is not the 2nd coming of Ed Reed but at least he can tackle better than Gregory. he is also a better alternative than the Wilsons and Ebner.

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Agreed. On the off chance that he takes the correct angle, he can certainly tackle better than Gregory. His coverage skills are just a few inches north of god awful, though.

Urgent said:

Oh, I think I can answer that one.

First, let me say: "Three-time Super Bowl Champion Je'Rod Cherry."
Second: "The Patriots have never won a Super Bowl without Je'Rod Cherry."

2001, roster included:
Je'Rod Cherry
Antwan Harris
Matt Stevens

2003, roster included:
Je'Rod Cherry
Antwan Harris
Chris Akins
Aric Morris

2004, roster included:
Je'Rod Cherry
Shawn Mayer
Dexter Reid

2007, roster included:
Willie Andrews
Mel Mitchell
Rashad Baker
(plus Rodney Harrison, Eugene Wilson, Brandon Meriweather, & James Sanders)

So, empirically, three is a good number. Some years two. Better rosters have had three ST safeties.

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At least Je-Rod did some good with his rings..

In a pawn shop, every item has a story - AFC East Blog - ESPN

Defensive back and special-teams player Je'Rod Cherry raffled his ring for charity in 2008. He said the ring raised $171,000 to build orphanages in Thailand and Cambodia, save children from sex trafficking there and feed impoverished children in Massachusetts and Ohio.

"A lot of people got help," Cherry said. "Children were taken out of brothels and given homes to live in. It's definitely something I'm proud to be a part of."


BTW, its Brock Williams' ring you see at the opening of Pawn Stars, he pawned it for $2,600!!! (insert Fred Sanford saying "You Dummy" here)

I think football fans tend to take the approach of "better the devil we don't know." We've seen our own weak links up close and personal, and the bad memories attached to them make us recoil, Pavlov-style. But when we sign somebody else's castoffs, we get over-optimistic.

If some other team had signed Ryan Wendell, their fans would probably be thrilled at picking up an experienced Patriots starter who's still just 28 years old! Woo-hoo!

Anyway, Chung strikes me as pretty shrug-worthy. In fact, I'm shrugging as we speak.

My mamma taught me to always try and see the positive in even the bleakest of situations: Patrick is the best Chung to ever play for the Pats.

Surprised by this. I too thought Gregory would be back before Chung. Well, actually didn't envision Chung being signed at all. But I don't think this means they change their safety draft plans if they had a safety in mind.

If he is cheap it's safety depth. Not like anyone is expecting him to be a starter again.

JackBauer said:

I know you won't respond, but how exactly is this different from you accusing people who don't see this signing being bad as Gwyneth Paltrow of rationalizing (rather than steely-eyed analysis, which as we know only you are capable of) the move?

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It is kinda funny that Mr. "My Opinion is Always Right and If You Disagree With Me, You are a %**&& Moron and Your Opinion is %&*#" is getting holier than thou about people pointing out the overreaction about a guy at most will be a special teamer and subpackage player and at least not make the 53 man roster as if the Pats signed the guy to be the anointed starter.

Personally, I think you put Chung in about 10-15 plays a game and have him play in the box and he has the potential to be effective for the Pats. He clearly isn't a starter and I wouldn't put him over the top coverage, but I think he has the skill sets to be a solid role player if used correctly. I still think he is far from guaranteed to get a roster spot, but he could have some value.

I am sure that Chung is getting little or no guaranteed money. How can it hurt to put him on the roster at this point and see if he can find a role?

And I am one of the perennial Deus Irae Ignore List Members. So he won't respond to this at all.

PC was definitely my binky for a year or two. At this point I'm thinking he's cheap ST help. When he picks the right angle he can hit though.

Urgent said:

Better rosters have had three ST safeties.

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...and three safeties who could play defense. The current Patriots team has exactly one of those in McCourty. Harmon and Adrian Wilson are either young and largely unknown or largely known to be old.

Eww... 10char

This takes us to Arizona.... I'm booking it now. But seriously, he will provide depth at SS if needed and he is a good ST player.

Patriots mandatory minicamp (closed to public) scheduled June 17-19. Organized team activities: 5/27, 5/29-30, 6/2-3, 6/5, 6/9-10, 6/12-13.

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