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Woodyard was a fish out of water when he was moved from a WLB to MLB. Problem was that he was a bad fit inside, a problem exacerbated by a neck injury. You know there had to be something physically wrong with Woodyard when he lost playing time to Paris Lenon (yes, the same Paris Lenon that was cut out of Patriots' training camp five years ago).

The problem for Woodyard in Denver is that his old position has been filled very nicely by Danny Trevathan, who is younger, cheaper, healthier and has more upside. The question for Woodyard and the Patriots is where he would fit on the roster, as it appears the Pats are set with their starters at linebacker - or would they prefer to enter the season with four starting-caliber linebackers? If so, does the money spent on the position weaken another position? Would Woodyard be willing to come in and compete for a job and playing time, and accept a backup/rotational role? Or would he be more interested in going to a team where he has a better chance to start, and therefore earn starting money?

Woodyard is a six-time captain (we know how Belichick loves team captains and their leadership) and is still only 27 (28 this summer). Dallas, Arizona, Miami, the Giants, Philly, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Oakland, Jacksonville and San Diego all have a more pressing need for an OLB than the Patriots do - and as a result are going to be more willing to spend more (if they have the cap space) for Woodyard than a team like the Pats looking at a fourth linebacker.
 
Not trying to be funny here...but has Mayo ever actually made it to the QB?

He has had as many sacks over the past 3 seasons as Patrick Willis has and that's with Willis playing 7 more games over that span.
 
Dallas, Arizona, Miami, the Giants, Philly, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Oakland, Jacksonville and San Diego all have a more pressing need for an OLB than the Patriots do - and as a result are going to be more willing to spend more (if they have the cap space) for Woodyard than a team like the Pats looking at a fourth linebacker.

Agreed, but if he picked the Pats as his first visit then the prospect of playing for a perennial playoff contender could be worth more to Woodyard than slightly more money. I'm sure that the Pats have a price that they know they would pay for him, and if he wants more we'll just go a different direction... For the right price, this would be a classic Patriots signing.
 
Not trying to be funny here...but has Mayo ever actually made it to the QB?

Do you actually watch the team?
 
https://twitter.com/BKDenverSports/status/443390603401773056

If he can return to 2012 form, he is a stud. If he is what he was in 2013, he can still be an excellent coverage specialist.

If he recovers from that neck injury 100%, it's a big win-win for us if we sign him. I believe putting him in at MLB was the wrong thing for Denver to do but they were out of options.

I envision him as being more of a hybrid backer in the nickel if he plays for us.
 
Not trying to be funny here...but has Mayo ever actually made it to the QB?

He has nine career sacks. So I would say yes. I think he would have more career sacks if he didn't have to go years where he was used to cover for deficiencies in the back seven of the defense.
 
This obviously means they're working on trading Hightower for Revis :singing:
 
Woodyard was a fish out of water when he was moved from a WLB to MLB. Problem was that he was a bad fit inside, a problem exacerbated by a neck injury. You know there had to be something physically wrong with Woodyard when he lost playing time to Paris Lenon (yes, the same Paris Lenon that was cut out of Patriots' training camp five years ago).

The problem for Woodyard in Denver is that his old position has been filled very nicely by Danny Trevathan, who is younger, cheaper, healthier and has more upside. The question for Woodyard and the Patriots is where he would fit on the roster, as it appears the Pats are set with their starters at linebacker - or would they prefer to enter the season with four starting-caliber linebackers? If so, does the money spent on the position weaken another position? Would Woodyard be willing to come in and compete for a job and playing time, and accept a backup/rotational role? Or would he be more interested in going to a team where he has a better chance to start, and therefore earn starting money?

Woodyard is a six-time captain (we know how Belichick loves team captains and their leadership) and is still only 27 (28 this summer). Dallas, Arizona, Miami, the Giants, Philly, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Oakland, Jacksonville and San Diego all have a more pressing need for an OLB than the Patriots do - and as a result are going to be more willing to spend more (if they have the cap space) for Woodyard than a team like the Pats looking at a fourth linebacker.

While the Pats do have three starter-caliber LBs right now, the problem is that they may only have three NFL rotation-caliber LBs as well (depending on how you feel about Fletcher). If the Pats wanted to sell Woodyard on the prospect of getting starter-level snaps, I don't think it would be a hard thing to do. Especially since Hightower and Collins both have a good amount of positional versatility and may take a non-trivial number of snaps as pass rushers. A four-man rotation with one more guy who's capable playing in space would be a big deal for them. The biggest selling point of all might be that there's virtually no way that the Pats would do what the Broncos did and move him to MLB, since Hightower and Mayo are both better fits there.
 
Hopefully he won't walk out the door without a contract..becasue if he does it won't look good
 
Any chance you're thinking of Wesly Mallard?

Well, between Wes Welker and Danny Woodhead we had Wesley Woodhead, which is close enough. :p
 
I'm not yet sold on Woodyard to Pats. As has been mentioned, while he would be a nice Spikes
replacement, I'm not sure that this is the position on which I would first concentrate my available
spending cash.
 
I'm not yet sold on Woodyard to Pats. As has been mentioned, while he would be a nice Spikes
replacement, I'm not sure that this is the position on which I would first concentrate my available
spending cash.

It's not like they are ONLY talking to him/about him. This team has many needs
 
I'm not yet sold on Woodyard to Pats. As has been mentioned, while he would be a nice Spikes
replacement, I'm not sure that this is the position on which I would first concentrate my available
spending cash.

If the Patriots only signed guys in order from highest need to lowest need, they'd miss out on a lot of good available players. Just because he might be the easiest contract to hammer out doesn't mean he was their #1 FA priority. Same with Hooman. Just because they signed him before FA, doesn't mean they valued him more than Talib or Edelman.
 
You might be right. 4pm can't come fast enough.
 
I'm not yet sold on Woodyard to Pats. As has been mentioned, while he would be a nice Spikes
replacement, I'm not sure that this is the position on which I would first concentrate my available
spending cash.

Reiss' take on the Pats' interest in Woodyard:

Why Woodyard?

Think sub defense.

The Patriots were in sub 67 percent of the time last season and that's where Woodyard -- who at 6-feet, 235 pounds would be a smaller 'backer for the Patriots' traditional scheme -- would likely project to help most.


The seven-year veteran was a weakside linebacker in the Broncos' 4-3 alignment when 2013 training camp opened before being moved to middle linebacker. A stinger sustained against the Cowboys on Oct. 6 knocked him out of the next two games and he was later replaced in the starting lineup.

Woodyard remained a part of Denver's sub packages. One of his greatest assets is speed, which would put him into the mix on special teams as well.

The Patriots look solid at the top of the linebacker depth chart with Jerod Mayo, Dont'a Hightower and Jamie Collins, so we didn't project an aggressive push at that position from the Patriots in free agency. The thought was that they'd focus more on linebackers who are more core special teamers (e.g. Dane Fletcher).

In Woodyard, who played under Josh McDaniels in 2009 and 2010 with the Broncos, it's possible the Patriots could address both areas -- a linebacker/captain with impact on defense and special teams.

Why Woodyard is on the radar - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston
 
Kinda hard to get a chubby about Wesley Woodyard....hoping for some real news at some point today.
 
As I've stated, I would really like to see Woodyard replace Spikes for what I ass-ume is
about the same cap value, but I also hope that there are others in the building who are
talking to other agents too.
 
Woodyard would of course be a good signing but I don't think it would be a huge upgrade for us. The only MAJOR benefit I see is when we play Denver we can have our base as Collins-Mayo-Woodyard which would make it hard to pass on for a traditional base defense.

However in nickel I don't see the upgrade. Is he that much better than either Mayo/Collins or do you take Arrington off the field or do you sub him as your SS?

I am not saying don't sign him if you get a good deal but if our starters are healthy it is not gonna have a big effect on 75% of what we do unless I am missing something.

However. He might be worth signing just to have that LB set up vs Denver.
 
Kinda hard to get a chubby about Wesley Woodyard....hoping for some real news at some point today.

Hmm. So we complain all season about how our linebackers are subpar in coverage, and then the offseason comes along and we lament our inability to "get a chubby" when they express interest in a coverage linebacker.

Makes total sense.
 
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