Source: Aqib Talib wants top-of-the-market deal

Froob · Mar 5, 2014

KontradictioN said:
Not sure how 52 tackles and 11 1/2 sacks is more name than game.

Plus we'd finally have a mother******* who can tackle Eli. Coughlin will be on the hot seat again which is bad news for us....

patsfan-1982 · Mar 5, 2014

mayoclinic said:
It also probably doesn't help that Buffalo just signed Aaron Williams to a 4 year / $26M extension (with incentives up to 4/$27.25).

Aaron Williams, Buffalo Bills strike 4-year, $26M deal - NFL.com

Aaron Williams is a 23 year old CB who had a pretty good season 6.5 million is not a bad deal for the bills I would love if Aqib Talib would sign a deal like that but it looks like his trying to get paid for the first 4 games of the season were he was the best CB in the NFL,

the problem is when he came back from his injury the front 7 was missing wilfork Kelly and mayo so his play was still good but not 9 or 10 million good, lets hope they can work out a deal for around 7.5 million per cause most of the good CB's are already off the market one week before free agency has even started and replacing pro bowlers with late 2th round picks is not the best way to go if you wanna win now with a 37 year old QB

TomNGisele · Mar 5, 2014

Keyser Söze said:
better than your team I promise you troll.

Ohhh it's that kind of forum, lol. That's too bad, I see this place gets a ton of traffic but apparently if you disagree with anybody or question the organization you're labeled a troll and a fan of another team. Screw you D bag.

I'm a diehard Pats fan born and raised. I can't stand to watch them with a crappy defense AGAIN. I can't watch Brady struggle throwing to mediocre/rookie receivers AGAIN.

Sorry, it frustrates me to picture a Patriot secondary that consists of McCourty, Ryan, Harmon, and Dennard. That's not good enough. It's not close to good enough. I'm far less concerned with the front 7. Mayo, Hightower, Collins, Jones, and Nink is a great start that doesn't need a bunch of tweaking.

Sicilian · Mar 5, 2014

Kenneth Sims said:
I'm all for improving the defense in all areas, but it will not help if you significantly weaken the most important position on your defense. Not all positions are as demanding or as important. Given the choice, I'd rather pay a million or two more than I want for my #1 corner, and save the money by, say, letting Duron Harmon start at safety rather than paying a Gregory-like veteran.

I don't agree that CB is the most important position on the defense. It's one of 11. I would rather have an elite DT, LB, or S than an elite CB if I had to choose one over the other. Obviously we'd all like to have everything (that's why Seattle was so dominant this year, great players at every level). But if you're telling me the only way this defense can be good next year is to keep Talib, then we're screwed because I'm not putting money on a 16 game season from him next year.

resdubwhite · Mar 5, 2014

Nunchucks said:
I could live with Jared Allen and a lesser CB in FA over Talib. People crying about Ryan being the number 1 have to understand that Logan was a rookie last year. We may see some improvement, just saying.

Also, Dennard was hurt a lot of last year, banged up knee and shoulder...also, year 3 for him should be good. He better be hitting the weights in prison.

As long as he isn't hitting the guards.

patsfan-1982 · Mar 5, 2014

TomNGisele said:
Am I the only one who's not excited about watching a team you KNOW isn't going to be good enough to win a SB?! Is this that kind of a forum?

they are a lock to make the playoffs every year so its a 1 and 6 chance to make it to the SB ill take that every time

Kontradiction · Mar 5, 2014

TomNGisele said:
If Ryan or Dennard are the number 1 corners on this team I will not watch a single snap.

Nice first post.

Keyser Söze · Mar 5, 2014

KontradictioN said:
Nice first post.

2 posts and it's already obvious he's a troll.

TomNGisele · Mar 5, 2014

KontradictioN said:
Nice first post.

You're pathetic. An internet tough guy

Keyser Söze · Mar 5, 2014

TomNGisele said:
Ohhh it's that kind of forum, lol. That's too bad, I see this place gets a ton of traffic but apparently if you disagree with anybody or question the organization you're labeled a troll and a fan of another team. Screw you D bag.

I'm a diehard Pats fan born and raised. I can't stand to watch them with a crappy defense AGAIN. I can't watch Brady struggle throwing to mediocre/rookie receivers AGAIN.

Sorry, it frustrates me to picture a Patriot secondary that consists of McCourty, Ryan, Harmon, and Dennard. That's not good enough. It's not close to good enough. I'm far less concerned with the front 7. Mayo, Hightower, Collins, Jones, and Nink is a great start that doesn't need a bunch of tweaking.

Can a mod look at his first 6 posts and ban this tool.

patsfan-1982 · Mar 5, 2014

TomNGisele said:
You're pathetic. An internet tough guy

I see your trying to set a record for how fast you can get banned

Kontradiction · Mar 5, 2014

TomNGisele said:
You're pathetic. An internet tough guy

Fite me irl then fgt.

TomNGisele · Mar 5, 2014

BAN ME FOR WHAT?!? Because I think they need a corner of Talibs level? Holy hell, what are we doing here?! Someone please show me how that's out of line? Oh my lord

JackBauer · Mar 5, 2014

Well, that escalated quickly.

Ivan · Mar 5, 2014

TomNGisele said:
You're pathetic. An internet tough guy

And the one that mother gives you won't do anything at all......................

PatsNation87 · Mar 5, 2014

Sicilian said:
I think the ideal scenarios for the Pats, in order, are:

1) They have Talib, and Talib is healthy when they need him. Defense is much better.

2) They don't have Talib, don't plan on having Talib, and use the cap space to shore up other areas of the defense. Defense is solid.

3) They have Talib on the books, but he's hurt, meaning his cap hit makes the rest of the team weaker. Defense is like last year.

There's no question he was a difference maker LAST year, because we were counting on him being there. If you build the team around not having him, you have a better chance of playing well in his absence.

Don't get me wrong, I love Talib. When he was playing this year, he was exceptional. He practically shut down one of the best TE's in the NFL (Jimmy Graham) single handedly. The problem with him is that not only is he injury prone, but he has a tendency toward off the field problems too. I think the smartest thing to do is try to build up the defense thinking that they won't have Talib, but still try to resign him (to a point).

There is no way to know, if he'll be healthy all of next year, and it would be a shame to lose him and then he plays for another team and has no health problems.

Kontradiction · Mar 5, 2014

TomNGisele said:
BAN ME FOR WHAT?!? Because I think they need a corner of Talibs level? Holy hell, what are we doing here?! Someone please show me how that's out of line? Oh my lord

You're getting banned bro. It's the end of the line for you.

TomNGisele · Mar 5, 2014

I was called a "fgt" because I think they need more than Alfonso Dennard (who's in jail as I type this) and a 2nd year player who played limited snaps last season. I'm so out of line, I must be a troll

Ivan · Mar 5, 2014

TomNGisele said:
BAN ME FOR WHAT?!? Because I think they need a corner of Talibs level? Holy hell, what are we doing here?! Someone please show me how that's out of line? Oh my lord

I'm with you, if they had only traded for talib 2 years ago when schiano offered they would have two more rings by now......

I'm MAD.

IF THEY DON'T DRAFT JOHNNY FOOTBALL I AM NEVER WATCHING ANOTHER SNAP. THESE GUYS ARE JUST LOSERS WHO WANT TO WATCH BRADY LOSE LOSE LOSE. WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING HERE!!!!!!!

makoute · Mar 5, 2014

Kenneth Sims said:
Well, I guess this means bye-bye Aquib because no one around Foxboro makes "top-of-the-market" money other than the owner and the head coach.

This is why the next few weeks will be my least favorite ones on the football calendar watching the Patriots lose good players while replacing them with used-up castoffs all in the name of "value".

I truly get it: Most NFL players are replaceable; I'll lose no sleep rather Dan Connolly or Josh Kline will be the Pats starting RG next season. Either will do an acceptable job and, if they can't, they'll be ten others standing in the NFL unemployment line who can.

BUT, Cornerbacks with the speed, size and agility to cover #1 receivers do not grow on trees and are essential if you want a good defense in these pass-happy days. If you see his "value" at 7 million a year but the market is 8 million a year, it is lunacy to lose him over the difference.

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