Explosive New Hernandez Details

Archeryaddict12 · Jun 20, 2013

BradyFTW! said:
If you're referring to the drug tests in college, I'd say that's quite a leap. If it is a drug deal gone bad, then that will somehow make Hernandez even dumber. The guy just signed a $60M+ football contract. What the hell would he need to be dealing drugs for?

With this world who in the heck knows. He might not be dealing them. I personally don't think he did something this bad. Just happened to be apart of something he didn't bargain for. But all we can do is wait it speculate. Might as well keep it interesting?

BPF · Jun 20, 2013

supafly said:
No offense, AA12--but your reasoning is clearly flawed in a serious manner.

The civil suit was dismissed due to an error in paperwork. It was refiled today.

There was no criminal case due to the victim not being cooperative. That certainly doesn't mean "clearly he wasn't shot."

I'm not trying to be a ****, but you're adding 1+1 and coming up with 3.

How exactly would you expect a criminal investigation to be done and charges pressed if you were shot and refused to comment about it? How would that work? Unless there are cameras around or some kind of clear cut evidence, the police deal with this kind of stuff every single day in the projects and inner city.

There isn't going to be any kind of charges pressed if the victim himself is not cooperating. That's criminal justice 101 right there.

Seems like the shooting involving civil suit (Bradley) is a well timed money grab. Case involving Lloyd obviously much more serious.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 8h
Reading police report from alleged Hernandez shooting. Police ask victim Bradley if he knows who shot him: "Male told him he did not know"

@gridironsports @MikeGarafolo @RapSheet Court record of Alexander Bradley criminal case of Hernandez Accuser https://twitter.com/gridironsports/status/347506686975700992/photo/1

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@MikeGarafolo @RapSheet here are the convictions for Alexander Bradley the Aaron Hernandez accuser http://www.mugshotrecords.org/arres...ates_Mugshot_3b6e1ecca1f2d28b0fdfca987af3b10d

belichick010405 · Jun 20, 2013

Archeryaddict12 said:
With this world who in the heck knows. He might not be dealing them. I personally don't think he did something this bad. Just happened to be apart of something he didn't bargain for. But all we can do is wait it speculate. Might as well keep it interesting?

I would prefer boring, Aaron Hernandez still going to work and the news that someone took one of the keys to the rental car that was in Aaron's name and meeting up with The Departed for a nefarious intent without Aaron's knowledge.

ctpatsfan77 · Jun 20, 2013

serifyn said:
Lets just say i don't think the Patriots weren't able to work in a murder clause.

They don't need to. The CBA already covers it:

(1) When ANY player is cut, any non-guaranteed salary simply disappears. Most of Hernandez's salary for future seasons is not guaranteed.

(2) Teams can place a clause in the contract allowing them to recoup bonus prorations from players who are incarcerated for any reason. It is NOT, however, part of the standard contract.

If things come to that point, then the question becomes whether Hernandez's contract in fact has such a clause.

BPF · Jun 20, 2013

Ironman44 said:
It has been explained. The cops were heavily involved just google it. The victim (bradley) did not cooperate and then gave what is now presumably a false statement by not implicating AH in the first place .

Its a hot mess anyway you look at it.

This Bradley was so devastated by this incident he went on to commit numerous crimes after it occurred.

JMC00 · Jun 20, 2013

Salva135 said:
But that doesn't explain a car rented by Hernandez at the crime scene, which may or may not be the car they drove home with. And if it's the same car, that means they drove to AH's house, drove back to the crime scene, left the car, and walked a mile home? Some big holes in this story still.

Yep.

If the cops are saying they were all in Hernandez's car and there is absolute evidence only three returned. That means the car was the rental car, which after they killed him they left said rental car and walked back all while doing it a mile away from your house?

belichick010405 · Jun 20, 2013

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supafly · Jun 20, 2013

BPF said:
Seems like the shooting involving civil suit (Bradley) is a well timed money grab. Case involving Lloyd obviously much more serious.

Not sure I understand your definition of "well timed?"

The original suit was filed last Thursday and dismissed on Monday due to an error, so it was redone 48 hrs later. All of this is not related to the timing of this new potential homicide charge (or whatever the specific charge will be).

Beyond that though, I was responding to AA12, who claimed that "there was obviously not a shooting initially," which is not remotely true. Just because there were no charges filed doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

JMarr · Jun 20, 2013

Deus Irae said:

Yea, the conclusion I'm jumping to is that, just based on his current known involvement, Goodell suspends him for at least 4 games-best case scenario. More bad info comes out, and his days as a NE Patriot could very well be over. Pretty simple.

I'm with those who would prefer that he wasn't on the team at this point.

Nikolai · Jun 20, 2013

I lived in Bristol for a couple years and I know how proud everyone was in that town that AHern made it. There are a couple of pretty rough sections, including the one in which he grew up. If the worst is confirmed, I know it will be a big blow to the community there. It's a pretty depressed town, really.

In any event, we don't really know enough to pass any real judgment. I freely admit, though, that my gut tells me this is bad, and I'm not usually one to see the pessimistic side.

supafly · Jun 20, 2013

BradyFTW! said:
If you're referring to the drug tests in college, I'd say that's quite a leap. If it is a drug deal gone bad, then that will somehow make Hernandez even dumber. The guy just signed a $60M+ football contract. What the hell would he need to be dealing drugs for?

NESN reporting as of about an hour ago that a police source stated that they think it's drug related, specifically marijuana--but I assume that you likely already know that by now as I have not backread the last few pages.

ctpatsfan77 · Jun 20, 2013

JMarr said:
I'm with those who would prefer that he wasn't on the team at this point.

I remember some folks wanted Edelman run out of town not that long ago—and then the DA's office actually stated that there was no evidence that any crime had been committed.

I'll pass on calling for Hernandez's job until we hear what it is he's actually done/accused of doing.

BradyFTW! · Jun 20, 2013

supafly said:
NESN reporting as of about an hour ago that a police source stated that they think it's drug related, specifically marijuana--but I assume that you likely already know that by now as I have not backread the last few pages.

Yeah, I did see that. Still, the fact that it will likely turn out to be drug-related doesn't mean that a couple failed drug tests in college indicates that he's a drug dealer. Does make Hernandez an even bigger idiot if he ends up going down for this, though. Doesn't exactly need the money, does he?

BPF · Jun 20, 2013

supafly said:
Not sure I understand your definition of "well timed?"

The original suit was filed last Thursday and dismissed on Monday due to an error, so it was redone 48 hrs later. All of this is not related to the timing of this new potential homicide charge (or whatever the specific charge will be).

Beyond that though, I was responding to AA12, who claimed that "there was obviously not a shooting initially," which is not remotely true. Just because there were no charges filed doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

Well timed refers to incident taking place in Feb and lawsuit being filed 6/13.

Aaron Hernandez's accuser never mentioned him to police

The man who is suing Aaron Hernandez and claiming the New England Patriots tight end shot him in the face told responding police the night of the incident he was shot by "both black and Hispanic males," according to a police report obtained by USA TODAY Sports.

Alexander S. Bradley, a 30-year-old Connecticut native who is the plaintiff in the suit against Hernandez, initially told police he didn't know who shot him but then provided the description of the two males to Officer Alex Mack, according to the 17-page report. Bradley then said he didn't want to talk anymore because it hurt, the report stated. When he refused to cooperate with investigators later at the hospital, police deemed his case to be inactive.

belichick010405 · Jun 20, 2013

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- @mariastephanos told surveillance from more than one location may be important in this case

supafly · Jun 20, 2013

serifyn said:
Lets just say i don't think the Patriots weren't able to work in a murder clause.

Actually, Miguel explained this in detail, although it involves about 5 pages of the CBA that I cannot understand myself.

There is indeed a clause that they may be able to take advantage of.

PATS16N0 · Jun 20, 2013

Time to call Lloyd.

supafly · Jun 20, 2013

BPF said:
Well timed refers to incident taking place in Feb and lawsuit being filed 6/13.

Aaron Hernandez's accuser never mentioned him to police

I thought that you were claiming that the timing was well timed since it just came up, so I was simply telling you that wasn't the case and that the civil suit was indeed filed last week before any of this came up.

All of that is irrelevant to my comment anyway, since I was responding to AA12 who stated that he felt there couldn't have been an actual shooting since there were no charges filed.

I think that situation is indeed fishy, but I do not agree with the statement that "a shooting definitely didn't happen b/c there was no police involvement or charges filed," so that's what I was responding to.

supafly · Jun 20, 2013

PATS16N0 said:
Time to call Lloyd.

It was probably time to call Llyod anyway, but I also don't think that he is going to offer anything close to what AHern could have.

In other words, Llyod could offer an improvement over Boyce, Jones, Jenkins, etc--but that's about it.

LLyod to me is a very good possession receiver with awesome knowledge of the offensive scheme, so he was already a great candidate for a WR3 role in my opinion. We don't know about the financial compensation or the rumors of being hard to manage however, so that may make this convo moot.

supafly · Jun 20, 2013

BradyFTW! said:
Yeah, I did see that. Still, the fact that it will likely turn out to be drug-related doesn't mean that a couple failed drug tests in college indicates that he's a drug dealer. Does make Hernandez an even bigger idiot if he ends up going down for this, though. Doesn't exactly need the money, does he?

Drug dealer, no. That is borderline ridiculous, and we'll be talking about this in 10 yrs if that's the case (God willing of course).

Drug user or group of drug users who were in contact with drug dealers, or even Odin Llyod as a drug dealer? That's possible in my opinion for sure.

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