Drop kick fan lists demands for Pats to get ball, Labor Talks, Sunday night games

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...k_scheme_fails/

''1. Payment of ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND ($100,000.00) DOLLARS [lawyer's capitals] on delivery of the football.

''2. A guarantee of eight (8) season tickets for 25 years in the end zone (preferably sections 142 or 143).

''a. The season tickets will be paid for annually by my client at the then going price for season tickets. The Patriots would not be expected to pay for the tickets.

''3. Delivery by the Patriots to my client sometime in September, 2006, of a Tom Brady Patriots' football jersey signed by all the team members as of the beginning of the next football season."

Borges:"A tip of the hat to the Kraft family for ignoring the whole matter. As someone in the organization said Friday, ''I hope he enjoys the football."


----Also talks about Labor negotiations:
Management has begun to put together some guaranteed cap numbers beginning at $110 million and swelling to $160 million six years later. Twelve years ago, when the salary cap era began, the first cap was around $36 million.

------Sunday night games later in year:
For Week 10, a game will be designated for Sunday night 12 days in advance; the same will happen for each succeeding week, with the teams involved given 12 days' notice.



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As for the fan you should have just asked for either the cash or the merchandise not season tickets, you might have gotten one or the other certainly not 100 grand though. Whose this guy's lawyer?

Looks like the CBA will get done soon.

I think the 12 days kind of stinks for fans of the Sunday night game. For me it would be no problem since I live 45 inutes away but for those that travel 4+ hours that stay overnight for those late games 12 days could be a real pain.

What an idiot, he's not getting anything. Better enjoy that football, bud. Maybe he can sell it directly to Flutie for like $1,000 ?

His request seems reasonable IMHO for the football.

I say more power to the guy. Everyone is always saying football is a business. The players, owners and coaches try to make as much $$ as they can, so what's wrong with this guy at least trying to make some dough? I will say he should be careful because whoever's seats he was sitting in might run into some trouble when it comes time to renew.

What an a-hole. People like this should be put on a boat to nowhere.

I'm glad this guy doesn't watch Rugby. They have drop goals a heck of a lot of the time. Who knows what he would be demanding?

gomezcat said:

I'm glad this guy doesn't watch Rugby. They have drop goals a heck of a lot of the time. Who knows what he would be demanding?

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If he was Rugby fan he would probably be demanding a new set of teeth and an eyebrowe wax.

gomezcat said:

I'm glad this guy doesn't watch Rugby. They have drop goals a heck of a lot of the time. Who knows what he would be demanding?

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If it were me I would have just asked to meet Doug and Tommy, BB, Tedy and Rodney and let it go at that! The 100K request is ridiculous, reminds me of the trouble the Sox had getting the WS ball back. Well, I guess in this case, greed is NOT good!

''A number of teams would go into severe cap trouble if there's no extension," said a league source. ''A team like the Colts would have to blow their team up. And for agents, it will be hard to get a true market deal. Not hard. It would be impossible."

Good. I hope the new contract never gets signed. I knew that Manning contract would kill the Dolts. Who kept saying it was cap friendly? Ha!

drew4008 said:

What an idiot, he's not getting anything. Better enjoy that football, bud. Maybe he can sell it directly to Flutie for like $1,000 ?

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>>>According to the fax, the law office represents Mr. X, ''who is in possession of the football recently drop kicked by Doug Flutie for the first extra point scored in the NFL by drop kick in forty one years.

If the last successful kick was in 1948, that's 57 plus years... so I guess the lawyer needs a remedial math course, especially since he must have put an extra zero or two on his demands....
I hope the attorney is charging hourly and not based on contingency or he's going to get bubkas, nada, zilch, rien, ...........

PatsRI said:

http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...k_scheme_fails/

Whose this guy's lawyer?

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Drew Rosenhaus, apparently.

This person is either the one who said they chomped on a finger or made $$$ for dropping their coffee in the drive-thru line.

A few signed jerseys and footballs and a few tickets would be fair...anything else is highjacking.

I would "ask" for season tickets, but myself and not with some Lawyer. If they didn't give them I'd give them the ball, but ask that my name be put on the plaque saying something like "And the ball was caught by So and so"

Also, as a result of this incident I think they should put the net up for 2 point converts henceforth

NovaScotiaPatsFan said:

Also, as a result of this incident I think they should put the net up for 2 point converts henceforth

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Only a guess, but I seriously doubt we'll see another drop-kicked extra point in this lifetime. Even so, I think the fan's demands are way out of line.

While his demands are tremendously unreasonable, I do not blame the guy for trying to get something for the ball. After all, it probably won't happen again (or even attempt again).

I agree with others in saying that he should have requested to meet the players, get some autographs, and the krafts should get him some tickets ( I don't know if season tickets are feasible). He and a friend could be invited to the owners box for one game or something.

this whole ordeal was created by the hoopla that the World Series "final out" caused

I read the comments listed herein, and see both sides of this argument. Here is my $.02 (Funny, they don't have a 'cent' sign on keyboards anymore.)

The person's demands were $100,000, 8 season tickets for 25 years in the endzone (that he would pay for), and a team autographed Brady jersey by the 2006 team.

The fan caught a football that he assumed to have value. What value? TBD. That can only be determined on how much someone is actually willing to pay for it. Is it unfair? Not really. And here's why.

Someone on this post hit the proverbial nail on the head when they said football is a business. He is 100% correct. How many Pats / Eagles season ticket holders went to last year's Super Bowl? Nearly nil. Why? Because the NFL and the teams sign contracts with "sponsors" and give them Super Bowl tickets while the fans get the royal shaft and sit at home wishing they were there cheering on the team they gave so much money to over the year. The Faithful are not rewarded.

This person who has the football is requesting money to sell the item back to the Pats. What is the difference between him and Seymour? At the beginning of the year, Seymour held out as he felt he was not getting his "fair" amount of money for someone of his playing caliber even though he signed a perfectly legal contract. The Pats eventually caved in and gave him an extra $1,000,000 for his services as a player. Do the Pats need the football? If so, they will have to pay the fan just like they paid Seymour to come back and play.

And as far as the players, teams, or the NFL: When was the last time ANYONE saw FREE autographs by a team, aside from the mad dash at training camp? When was the last time Gillette Stadium was open, or any other stadium that allowed TRUE fans that don't have much money, or can not afford $45 - $300 per autograph, to walk into the stadium during certain hours, get an autograph for free? When was the last time a true fan could get a picture with a player for free instead of paying serious $$$, or hoping some "corporate sponsor" would provide the fan a ticket? When was the last time a team made players available for free autographs / pictures for fans that just wanted to say hi, and thanks for for a great year?

So what's the difference? Is it fair? Is it moral? That's an individual decision for all to make; but, I don't blame the fan one bit. With all of the aforementioned, I hope the fan can get as much out of the NFL as possible, as the NFL has already squeezed the fans dry.

donna_harris said:

So what's the difference? Is it fair? Is it moral? That's an individual decision for all to make; but, I don't blame the fan one bit. With all of the aforementioned, I hope the fan can get as much out of the NFL as possible, as the NFL has already squeezed the fans dry.

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Yeah, as the players say "it's a business". However the guy drastically overvalued himself and his ball in this case.