The 2012 season: the Jets [Mod Edit: STILL] suck

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Rob0729 said:

Ever notice that Ryan seem to only pump up defensive players like this in the media? This preseason I have heard him talk up Wilkerson, Coples, Wilson, Bell, and other defensive players while he has blasted his WRs about conditioning.

Albert Breer brought up a point last week that one of the reasons why the Ravens didn't promote Ryan is because there was a culture in Baltimore of defense vs. offense and the defense acted like they had to carry the offense and they got preferential treatment. Breer thinks that Ryan may have helped to advance this culture.

Everything we have seen from the Jets seems to show this. Ryan is very hands off with the offense and appears to not even notice the riffs. He is constantly pumping up defensive players in the media, but not the offensive players. He seems to coddle defensive players (letting Cromartie play offense for example). His whole strategy is to have the defense win games and the offense just not screw up (that is the basic premise of Ground and Pound).

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Yea i'd say that a pretty sound observation/theory.

Its almost as if he wants to handicap the offense in order to prove what a great defensive co-ordinator he is.

I know we had Troy Brown back in the day, and Edelman more recently, play some d-back but I don't recall either of those spoutng off in the media about their positioning on the defensive depth chart!

Whatever you may think about Sanchez, he has been sabotaged numerous times since his debut - the constant flux at WR and the general lack of pass catching talent.

Then they make probably his loudest vocal critic the offensive team leader.

Yep, its clear Rex has no real interest in how the offense does.

Breaking news from Green Beans camp:

Jets safeties plan to get physical with tight ends | ProFootballTalk

"Blah, blah, blah, blah … I’m a New York Jet and am tough and good! My coach says so! Blah, blah, blah, blah … "

More breaking news from JETS camp:

Sanchez and Tebow got picked off and/or sacked repeatedly this AM. OK, that's nothing newsworthy.

However...

Manish Mehta ‏@MMehtaNYDN

Jets QBs Sanchez, McElroy and Simms throw balls into a garbage can from 40 yards out. Highly skilled tacticians.
New York Jets ‏@nyjets

#JH Sanchez receives loud cheers from the crowd after sinking 45-yd ball into trash can!

Mike Sielski ‏@MikeSielskiWSJ

BREAKING: Sanchez throws football into garbage can from 45 yards away. #NYJ sign garbage can.

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Sounds like they didn't let Tim participate in the drill...

Tunescribe said:

Breaking news from Green Beans camp:

Jets safeties plan to get physical with tight ends | ProFootballTalk

"Blah, blah, blah, blah … I’m a New York Jet and am tough and good! My coach says so! Blah, blah, blah, blah … "

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Oh Noooezz! Yeremiah Bell is too tough, Gronk can't handle it.

MoLewisrocks said:

More breaking news from JETS camp:

Sanchez and Tebow got picked off and/or sacked repeatedly this AM. OK, that's nothing newsworthy.

#JH Sanchez receives loud cheers from the crowd after sinking 45-yd ball into trash can!

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So does this make Cromartie the Jets' third-best receiver now?

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randomk1 said:

Quinton Coples vs Cincinnati Bengals - YouTube


For those of you who missed out on the future all-pro

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After watching that Coples looks good in rushing the QB, but absolutely horrendous in run support. If they plan on using him as a 3-4 DE at a lanky 285 lbs he is going to get pushed around all day by the 315lb OL. I would run to his side every down.

Here's a beaut from Ray Ray stating that the Jets don't look for media attention: Jets Insider.com Forums - View Single Post - ESPN: Jets Safeties Plan To Play Rough

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Frezo said:

The Patriots are so entrenched in his head that he has to pull Belichick's pants down to take a crap.

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Thank you for giving me my biggest laugh of the day. Not sure how it makes sense, but I'm going to use it.

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What a circus the Jets are. I'm not going to be so naive to say Couples will bust. Noone really knows for sure. But I do know if I were a Jets fan I would temper my excitement if my #1 draft picks success was against 2nd and 3rd stringers.

I like BB's we'll wait and see approach much better than Ryan's he's the best thing since sliced bread bravado. It just makes Ryan seem like "the boy who called hall of famer" after every 1st round draft pick. He sounds like a #$%^ing idiot to me honestly, every time he opens his mouth. Like some insecure bully that wants you to believe he knows the anser to everything even though he doesn't know jack.

Great defensive coordinator with lousy team building skills from what little I know of him.

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Frezo said:

This isn't about Coples though. Someone in the media compared Jones to JPP. Wrecks never would have said that if nobody mentioned Jones. The Patriots are so entrenched in his head that he has to pull Belichick's pants down to take a crap.

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That metaphor makes no sense unless you assume Ryan carries his head in the seat of his pants ...

... very well then -- carry on!

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Fencer said:

That metaphor makes no sense unless you assume Ryan carries his head in the seat of his pants ...

... very well then -- carry on!

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That's why it was hilarious to me. I instantly thought of Tommy boy trying to sell brake pads with his befuddled stick his head up a butchers ass story.

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Bill B. said:

Thank you for giving me my biggest laugh of the day. Not sure how it makes sense, but I'm going to use it.

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I know. It just kind of rolled off the keyboard. Wrecks has an inferiority complex that primarily manifests itself in regards to Belichick and the Patriots. I'd bet the time out he called in Baltimore in '07 that could have cost the Ravens the game was a starting point. The first words out of his mouth in his initial NY presser were, "I'm not here to kiss Belichick's rings." Not the Patriot's rings, not the players, not Kraft's...Belichick's. His ego says he has to compare himself to the best, but it sets him up for failure. This is because when he sets up himself, either directly or through his players, to fail in comparison to the best, it feeds an ego that would be shattered by failing to a lesser entity. His SB predictions indicate the same thing. (am I making sense here?) His obsession continues and spills over to his players who he also compares to the best of their ilk. A few days ago he was talking about Sanchez and Tebow. In the middle of it Brady's name pops up. Shut up Wrecks. The Jets aren't about the Patriots, their coach or other players in the league. They're about the Jets. He can't stop it though. To quote Andy, it makes him look like a buffoon.

Most Jets fans fall in lock step right behind him. It does appear that there is an ever growing segment that is sick of this false bravado, but they're stuck with him. Woody just keeps buying the occasional big name player while letting Wrecks ramble on so he can sell tickets and PSLs. (1 internet $ to Sprial) This will go on until it's no longer profitable and Woody will find another coach's strings to manipulate. The Jets are stuck in neutral and it won't be long until it shifts into pedal to the metal reverse.

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How many JPP clones can there be? Everyone can't be the next JPP.

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Frezo said:

This isn't about Coples though. Someone in the media compared Jones to JPP. Wrecks never would have said that if nobody mentioned Jones. The Patriots are so entrenched in his head that he has to pull Belichick's pants down to take a crap.

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This is very interesting and something I had not thought of before. It does make a lot of sense. Ryan has had a hard on (pardon me) for the Patriots since he became the head coach for that team. He tries to play the stupid mind games with them and BB, but BB never bites. His obsession is becoming scary.

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When I watched the Bungles/Jester game I thought he looked a lot more like Wilkerson than JPP. He made some good plays against 2s and 3s but he should be a good player for them in a starting role. We'll see how he does against tough players like Mankins and Waters all game long... if and when Waters arrives.

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Frezo said:

I'd bet the time out he called in Baltimore in '07 that could have cost the Ravens the game was a starting point.

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Questionable time out, but you gotta admit that was one of the most pressure packed drives in memory. That was a melt down drive. Somebody was going to melt down. Luckily it was Rex. Not a great moment for his resume.

Nothing like putting a little pressure on Lil'Marky

NY Jets' Bart Scott and Darrelle Revis want Mark Sanchez to step up to big time - NY Daily News


“The quarterback needs to take us there,” Darrelle Revis said. “We’re counting on Mark to do that. If we lose, it falls on Mark. If we win, it falls on Mark. We’re very confident in Mark. We’re counting on him.”


They know this by markys body language


Despite the pressure, Sanchez has been much more relaxed at this training camp than ever before.

“I think everybody has seen the difference in how he walks, how he handles it if he throws a bad ball, how he carries hims....

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BananaRepublican said:

Questionable time out, but you gotta admit that was one of the most pressure packed drives in memory. That was a melt down drive. Somebody was going to melt down. Luckily it was Rex. Not a great moment for his resume.

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I looked at it as a heart attack drive, because it damned sure nearly gave ME one! Thank God I had some bourbon left to calm me down.

Fixit said:

Here's a beaut from Ray Ray stating that the Jets don't look for media attention: Jets Insider.com Forums - View Single Post - ESPN: Jets Safeties Plan To Play Rough

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Quite possibly THE nuttiest post in Rage Rage's illustrious "whistlin' gypsy", "don't have a canary" career.

who would have guessed...everybody was out to "get" Rex from the start...poor guy

The latest genius scheme from the Green Bean Brains Trust:

There’s no question that Aaron Maybin is a talented athlete, but one of the big knocks on him as he entered the league was his ability to play at a weight that is more that of a defensive linemen rather than a safety. Maybin is extremely fast, but his ability to be redirected out of plays by much larger offensive linemen and players was something that Maybin has had the opportunity to overcome in his time with the Jets, writes Brian Costello for the Post.

Also, his metabolism is craaaaaaay! and the Jets are wisely planning to use that to their advantage this season.

The problem for Maybin has never been playing fast, though. His problems have based on poor technique and being too light. When the Bills released him, general manager Buddy Nix said he did not know if Maybin would fit into any system at the weight he was at (around 228 pounds).

This offseason, Maybin has packed on the pounds. He reached 254 pounds before dropping down to 240 before camp. It is a challenge for Maybin to keep weight on. He said he’s needed IVs during camp because he has lost as much as 10 pounds during a practice.

At lunch, he puts on a show. He said his usual lunch consists of 4-8 chicken breast, a steak or fish, a salad, a vegetable, and a “really big” bowl of fruit. Maybin said the Jets plan on using his metabolism to their advantage this season. If they face a run-heavy team, he will add weight. A pass heavy team? He will lose it.

“I can gain or lose 20 pounds in a 3-day period,” Maybin said. “It’s ridiculous.”

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Yup, thats right Aaron Maybin is going to fluctuate his weight by +20LBS depending on who the opponent is that week.

A quick calculation from a sceptical Jets fan:

I could understand his metabolism being too fast, and him being able to lose 20 pounds in 3 days

But to gain 20 pounds in 3 days...

Thats around 70,000 excess calories (and say hes burning 10,000 calories a day) that would be aprox 100,000 calories.

Which comes out to somewhere in the ballpark of 40 whole large pizzas

But if his metabolism is as fast as theyre saying (ie he can lose 20 pounds in 30 days) youd have to double that number for him to gain 20 pounds in 3 days.

Which would be approximately 200,000 calories in 3 days, or the equivalent of eating 25 + WHOLE large pizzas a day for 3 days.

Im buying that he has a crazy metabolism, and the Jets could use that to their advantage. But this is absolutely nonsense, I dont care what they say

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