How do we slow down the Giants WR's?

mb6592 · Jan 23, 2012

It's simple. Brady will have to bring his A game or we probably lose. He will probably be under enormous pressure, which hasn't been comfortable for him the past couple of years. But he played pretty badly against the Ravens. What are the chances that he has two stinkers in a row?

supafly · Jan 23, 2012

mb6592 said:
It's simple. Brady will have to bring his A game or we probably lose. He will probably be under enormous pressure, which hasn't been comfortable for him the past couple of years. But he played pretty badly against the Ravens. What are the chances that he has two stinkers in a row?

Personally, I would be more concerned with the secondary and defense containing Manning and the Giants' WR's, as opposed to concerning myself with the possibility of Brady and our offense not being able to score.

As you said, how often will Brady have 2 bad games in a row?

RoughingthePasser · Jan 23, 2012

The Giants Oline needs to be exploited. Easier said than done.
Our defensive front needs to do what they did to us in the SB.

So basically...

Pressure Eli and disrupt their pass game.

Pass rush

Our Db's need to watch lots of film on Cruz etc....they're all dangerous receivers but they aren't if Eli can't deliver and that's up to our defensive pass pressure

NEP4Life · Jan 23, 2012

mb6592 said:
It's simple. Brady will have to bring his A game or we probably lose. He will probably be under enormous pressure, which hasn't been comfortable for him the past couple of years. But he played pretty badly against the Ravens. What are the chances that he has two stinkers in a row?

Did you know that Brady has won 7 of 8 playoff games in which he has thrown zero interceptions?

The sole exception? The game we don't talk about. :bricks:

Nevertheless, to me, Brady's A game means 0 picks, and if that happens, I think the Pats will raise the Lombardi.

mb6592 · Jan 23, 2012

Deus Irae said:
I think Manning's playing fine and all, but let's not forget the two easy picks that he left in the air for the 49ers, only to have them dropped by colliding defenders. The Manning level of play has been exaggerated quite a bit of late. Here are his QB ratings for his last 7 games:

90.7
45.5
61.5
136.7
129.3
114.5
82.3

Brady has just 5 games with a QB rating below 100 all season long, including the playoffs. Manning's been under 80 that many times.

Not sure who those numbers are against, but he will get his yardage against this defense. Do they keep him out of the endzone?

Anyway, I think this game will really come down to the Giants' pass rush vs the Patriots' offensive line - and it will come down to Brady. He has to play like Brady (not the Brady who has looked confused and inaccurate on rare ocassions like against the Jets in last year's playoff). If Brady has a great day, the Giants have no chance.

mb6592 · Jan 23, 2012

supafly said:
Personally, I would be more concerned with the secondary and defense containing Manning and the Giants' WR's, as opposed to concerning myself with the possibility of Brady and our offense not being able to score.

As you said, how often will Brady have 2 bad games in a row?

I think it's a given that the Giants will move the ball against this defense and this defense will make some stops in the redzone. The Giants will probably score in the 17-24 point range. Can this offensive line handle the Giants pass rush? Will Brady be Brady (or will he be affected by the pass rush as we have seen on occassion)? Will they settle for field goals? I think, for this Superbowl, as the offense goes this team will go.

mb6592 · Jan 23, 2012

NEP4Life said:
Nevertheless, to me, Brady's A game means 0 picks, and if that happens, I think the Pats will raise the Lombardi.

The more I think about this, the more I agree 100%. Has there been a game where Brady didn't throw an interception and it'd classified as a "bad" game? I can't recall one.

alvinnf · Jan 23, 2012

Beg them to run and play good third down defense.

Luke Skywelker · Jan 23, 2012

BigHoss28 said:
The Patriots match up great against the Giants' defense. Good OL, great middle of the field weapons, quick guys suited for quick hitters and screens and an experienced, accurate QB.

The Giants linebackers are not very good, the Patriots will have a lot of favorable matchups in the middle.

Also, the Giants have an aggressive DL which favors the Pats' type of running game, inside/outside zone and draws.

The Patriots put up 438 yards of offense against the Giants when they met in the regular season... The three leading receivers were Welker, Gronk and Hernandez and the longest completion was a mere 28 yards to Welker.

The Patriots also averaged almost 4.5 yards per carry for 106 yards.

They won't be able to isolate their LB on Gronkowski, Hernandez or Welker, or even backs out of the backfield. This means the Giants will need help from their pretty good - not great - secondary. This will stretch the field.

Same thing will likely happen in the Superbowl, but you never know. But to say the Patriots don't match up well against the Giants defense is just not correct. The Pats are actually very well suited to face a team like the Giants whose DL is geared towards rushing the passer and whose linebackers are big, slow and not that good against the run or in coverage. The Pats should prey on those weaknesses all game long. Key word is SHOULD.

This post is great. Listen, if you look at BB and the way he ticks in staying ahead of the NFL and how it evolves, you have to bet your @ss he took a look at that SB loss, where you had an undefeated and dominant football team neutralized and realized it was time to change strategy. And once he was able to identify his set, he went out and got them. When you live by the WR, your QB needs time in the pocket for plays to develop. A dominant opposing DLine doesn't offer that, and he figured out a way to neutralize - with the TE.

Brady_to_Moss · Jan 23, 2012

Pressure. If pats get no pressure on manning. He will tear us apart

captain stone · Jan 24, 2012

Apologies if it's been mentioned already, but our DBs need to lay some very serious -
but clean & legal - hurts on their WRs, early & often.

patsfaninpittsburgh · Jan 24, 2012

supafly said:
At least it's a designer cone hat..I'll take it.

As far as my "thinking," yes---that's what everyone on this forum does. Just b/c you don't agree with it means nothing. The defense is not anywhere as good as SF's...that's a fact.

If you see no relation to a team with a much better defense getting 7 sacks, and giving up 10 points on defense--again, that's on you.

If SF didn't have anything to do with those 7 sacks and limiting pts, maybe you feel it was the power of Tebow then? Who was it?

If you keep up with these replies, you are going to go from designer to stock real quick.

Try to follow.

San Fransisco has a very fine defense. However, are they some super natural, other worldly, uber defense?

No

How do I know that?

Well, the week before, one of the three elite league offenses went into their house and put up 30+ points and almost 500 yards of offense.

If a known elite offense produces those numbers and another offense gets shut down; Uber defense isn't the reason. If it was, New Orleans would have also been shutdown.

meyerbudNYG · Jan 24, 2012

duce110 said:
The Giants have a pretty good WR corps, so how do we stop them... Cruz, Nicks and Manningham will be legit threats to our D... How do you see the Pats trying to isolate them... We know we could put up points but if Brady has another bad night, it might be lights out for us... :bricks:

i'll tell ya... it will be a long day if Edelman is on Cruz

duce110 · Jan 24, 2012

meyerbudNYG said:
i'll tell ya... it will be a long day if Edelman is on Cruz

I hope BB game plans something other then having Edelman on Cruz,

meyerbudNYG · Jan 24, 2012

duce110 said:
I hope BB game plans something other then having Edelman on Cruz,

lol i couldn't believe my eyes. not only was he in, but they stuck him on Boldin!

Bostonian1962 · Jan 24, 2012

BadMoFo said:
Same way we did against the Rams in 01. Keep hitting them.

They changed the rules, and we can't do that anymore.

Bostonian1962 · Jan 24, 2012

TheComeback said:
The only way to slow down the Giants WRs is to pressure Eli.

It's definitely doable. Their o-line is weaker than the Ravens.

If we don't get pressure, it's lights out for the Pats.

I'm not digging that our best pass rusher this year, Carter, is out for the year.

Bostonian1962 · Jan 24, 2012

mb6592 said:
It's simple. Brady will have to bring his A game or we probably lose. He will probably be under enormous pressure, which hasn't been comfortable for him the past couple of years. But he played pretty badly against the Ravens. What are the chances that he has two stinkers in a row?

You nailed it. We will have to outscore the Giants, and Brady needs to have his best game of the year, and best playoff game ever. The Giants will score their points. I have no problem with winning 45 to 42, or some such.

Phlash · Jan 24, 2012

KontradictioN said:
"Anytime you can pressure the quarterback with three or four guys and drop the rest into coverage, that's good defense."

-Tom Brady

We slow down the Giants receivers by sustaining drives that result in points on offense, winning the T.O.P. battle, and beating the hell out of Eli.

Sounds like what the Patriots did to the Ravens.

Keyser Söze · Jan 24, 2012

I'd love to blitz Eli, but that means leaving CB's one on one. Sadly I don't think BB trusts our secondary....and he shouldn't

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